From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF58215838C for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2024 04:21:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 749C2E2A83; Tue, 23 Jan 2024 04:21:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from barracuda.ebox.ca (barracuda.ebox.ca [96.127.255.19]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21EAAE2A65 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2024 04:20:59 +0000 (UTC) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1705983659-0c856e713e185a590001-LfjuLa Received: from smtp.ebox.ca (smtp.ebox.ca [96.127.255.82]) by barracuda.ebox.ca with ESMTP id BQ9ziaE52fTuXF8s (version=TLSv1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2024 23:20:59 -0500 (EST) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: waltdnes@waltdnes.org X-Barracuda-RBL-Trusted-Forwarder: 96.127.255.82 Received: from waltdnes.org (unknown [198.58.217.37]) by smtp.ebox.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id 0372E441B21 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2024 23:20:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2024 23:21:13 -0500 X-Barracuda-RBL-IP: 198.58.217.37 X-Barracuda-Effective-Source-IP: 198-58-217-37.on.cable.ebox.net[198.58.217.37] X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 198.58.217.37 From: Walter Dnes To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] [OT] Anyone running mutt outboung smtp on port 587? Message-ID: X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] [OT] Anyone running mutt outboung smtp on port 587? References: <22161767.EfDdHjke4D@rogueboard> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <22161767.EfDdHjke4D@rogueboard> X-Barracuda-Connect: smtp.ebox.ca[96.127.255.82] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1705983659 X-Barracuda-Encrypted: AES128-SHA X-Barracuda-URL: https://96.127.255.19:443/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Barracuda-BRTS-Status: 1 X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at ebox.ca X-Barracuda-Scan-Msg-Size: 1198 X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.00 using global scores of TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=5.0 tests= X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.3.119812 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- X-Archives-Salt: 7a46016d-b7fd-47c3-a220-d86482cd61fe X-Archives-Hash: 8a552d5ab0aa96d28c599725009c9500 On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 10:08:38PM +0000, Michael wrote > If your ISP *only* offers access from their own block of IPs, do > they refuse access to their SMTP server for legitimate subscribers > who move around and want to send messages from a different network? I don't know the answer to that one. > Anyway, if you disable TLS encryption then your communication with > the server is sent in the clear. It would be prudent to consider it > as a form of public communication, rather than private. I thought > email comms encryption and server authentication was ubiquitous for > decades now, but obviously I am wrong! :-) The message from my ISP about port 587 said... >> It has to be set with SSL, without any authentication. Does SSL help privacy at all? BTW, if mutt does *ANY* external ccommunication it seems to require the "ssl" USE flag. Trying... USE="-ssl" emerge -pv mutt ...on my system dies with... The following REQUIRED_USE flag constraints are unsatisfied: imap? ( ssl ) pop? ( ssl ) smtp? ( ssl ) This message coming to you via port 587 -- Roses are red Roses are blue Depending on their velocity Relative to you