From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0415158004 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2024 04:59:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D034E2A4F; Wed, 10 Jan 2024 04:59:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from barracuda.ebox.ca (barracuda.ebox.ca [96.127.255.19]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 068DAE2A3B for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2024 04:59:52 +0000 (UTC) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1704862790-0c856e713e16e73f0001-LfjuLa Received: from smtp.ebox.ca (smtp.ebox.ca [96.127.255.82]) by barracuda.ebox.ca with ESMTP id 1eiGzfnbBaDeLRba (version=TLSv1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 09 Jan 2024 23:59:50 -0500 (EST) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: waltdnes@waltdnes.org X-Barracuda-RBL-Trusted-Forwarder: 96.127.255.82 Received: from waltdnes.org (unknown [198.58.217.37]) by smtp.ebox.ca (Postfix) with SMTP id 27EE4441B21 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2024 23:59:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by waltdnes.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 09 Jan 2024 23:59:50 -0500 X-Barracuda-RBL-IP: 198.58.217.37 X-Barracuda-Effective-Source-IP: 198-58-217-37.on.cable.ebox.net[198.58.217.37] X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 198.58.217.37 From: "Walter Dnes" Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2024 23:59:50 -0500 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Anyone running mutt outboung smtp on port 587? 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References: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Barracuda-Connect: smtp.ebox.ca[96.127.255.82] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1704862790 X-Barracuda-Encrypted: AES128-SHA X-Barracuda-URL: https://96.127.255.19:443/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Barracuda-BRTS-Status: 1 X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at ebox.ca X-Barracuda-Scan-Msg-Size: 2449 X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.00 using global scores of TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=5.0 tests= X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.3.119215 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- X-Archives-Salt: e91cfce0-f58e-4b14-a95f-bf2e144f9655 X-Archives-Hash: 3f58cb90bdb77e29ec2edadd6f1ac200 On Tue, Jan 09, 2024 at 02:54:06PM -0500, Philip Webb wrote > > IIRC we both live in/near Toronto, so no doubt Big Bad Bell is > responsible. I'm currently on EBOX cable. Bell bought them https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/bell-acquires-longueuil-based-internet-provider-ebox-819104090.html but EBOX still operates as a separate brand. After the purchase Bell is now a TPIA customer of Rogers (giggle) for EBOX cable customers. Bell obviously doesn't like this and wants to route my traffic over their own fibre so they don't have to pay Rogers. > My notes tell me (set up Mutt in new machine ANB6) : > > /etc/group : add '' to 'ssmtp' Wierd; I've been running for years without that. mutt passes email to ssmtp which passes it on to the EBOX smtp server. > and (authenticate for mail access) : > > Send mail via Wifi : new procedure, as prev'ly no security needed ; > now CIN has to be told who it's dealing w. I think something similar is happening to me. Because their networks are probably still separate, the EBOX smtp server sees Bell fibre traffic as coming from "an external network", requiring authentication. > 'set ssl_starttls=yes > set ssl_force_tls=yes > set smtp_url="smtp://@smtp.ca.inter.net:25" > set smtp_pass=""' > > I don't know anything re Port 587 : how do I find out my port number ? Thanks for the settings. From my Google searches, the ":25" in "smtp_url" indicates port 25. User posts on the EBOX DSLReports forum all seem to talk about port 587 for fibre customers. Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMTP_Authentication says "generally on port 587", so apparently it can work on other ports. In your case, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". > BTW I do recommend ca.inter.net (their name) for I/net + e-mail : > I've used them happily for 15 years ; they are in Waterloo, Ont. As an incentive to go fibre, EBOX/Bell is offering me somewhat faster fibre service for the same price I'm paying now. My invoice for Dec 2023 is the same price as for Nov 2020, unlike Bell who constantly raise prices. I'd like to hang around if EBOX keeps their rates static. I checked the ca.inter.net website. There are asterisks beside the monthly price... which goes up $10 after the first 12 months. -- Roses are red Roses are blue Depending on their velocity Relative to you