From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1BDD415ACFB for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2023 22:18:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 83A43E089D; Tue, 18 Apr 2023 22:18:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.22]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C4588E0894 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2023 22:18:20 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.de; s=s31663417; t=1681856296; i=warp_7@gmx.de; bh=dfGH3WSV8OBdHdrBHDIc5o1joS01zXpDwFI2OpVdJyc=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=XhVcq4sUEixFjAzmJ63B14Hxv1/opU2FmzqLyqqpERgqCP+2XYlv781R/q3uWRKL7 PIpIx711NS+PzQBye5xcxTmtHPVtows3YTzvExQ2Ixy/E4XXgYfKq/3HgvbnAmrPI2 +YAANZyqiakqWUJ2I22Cs3XU4P/nG+iJnXs4xNUnwBe7DE1qvdgV8iEaealZBX9zAK BEeitekZ8pO90gST2/D6uCYbv8ObY89ecnx9o/kY7BRo/Dstw3ji666VmDbOUSYH0h FXFQShSci2isAKNCGwYnYyudLEVf+Q6R7L+WX5UURFEIUhidsngzGsVyBe7S65T8TS MuLhC/F0u7Wtg== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Received: from moby ([92.117.38.115]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx105 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1M59GG-1pnnBs1elA-001708 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2023 00:18:16 +0200 Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2023 00:18:14 +0200 From: Frank Steinmetzger To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Finally got a SSD drive to put my OS on Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <3a8a143d-38f0-b7ea-4aa1-10c0b3a2a1e0@gmail.com> <50d5c2a3-76cc-39bc-290a-c6d3d9e0d7c4@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dv7XZeTvCEyU+ush" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <50d5c2a3-76cc-39bc-290a-c6d3d9e0d7c4@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt 2.2.10; VIM - Vi IMproved 9.0 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:wZOnUGR+vriu4euSIgBdcUjJQCT7B1AhIh+7LMYvFvEtDj2ZNEq xStcL9kVUtQta60EJYoQxpLtoPMF5P4NKWkOPfVqaH2kTCpAEcKUcOXtKnFoi07QCxZXpKa 1QWefSK2ZAYsE7q0vnST1Ti1Niw7JSBHSXCKiQNhA4Ir1Xs+tz8uiDzeswxcyQWn9rh7LAh eo49PoPoOkkwehCOgVi3A== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:xn9wRUyF2v8=;zMsqPtqCYUXo9rv4UREfodr1O6S 2Od8EtP510AUCs+Mr4xGWUj627kkg9un5PoG1/8mQjPm4Sg8GHgPvqe/XJCiM6MucBtdLZ3fr Te9sYsaQ5M72t+7N0B3hDIAk124ehX/DxzyQ9VaxPOzUinw3DZDDx33L040HADPZ5OGvMMmeJ YUPkilv8SRTfLaH7FUGyqabKXW+Z/evkrMjLGeANpvvqGnCTJrHs4NX32bvwKscvF2AxOP3zl Qrq7UtuY3b4WkGCGjYdttjybmWVOUkju5G5yYz1+S3M2Ai1rutRg5xGT+DUG3x6nfP1oy6dLv DnAvgWcrNyEAfl6OLjW4e80ESZLgmWwJLDudlgnezIuZOQCopPPGLKzhx9Seq8K5m4ySMDRDk fcgwGyRa4idWOhxm/mfsd42XCnvpYNNSjS+4RZEROnc/tQjmvbPe9et4MIrN/hRQ9ooarLbDf K1F9cIbx5mICDEShIlg7XZlZTJK3kOJdjlAcRincSOGi7d8+fsTQLINPNABrD2+Phaxpnrfrv r5zZTvz8Bzw/LJJkItCmiio7k/c/zfDNWN4xqwTdoyCF0sEdPU6hy7uywak+KL3nBeN/zZnkF y6NxSSTV7sc4ZMpT7mpVlUmmIpj60cULz+wYVHG2DA6xxN+ATQkyfBd1cJ+2ARfBqrjZj6pI+ /dYmHP1rgC9p4hgMob0HNwz7jUaIXvMj6PKp/OO6OpedAkMNOKXbETUfFf3SP0JerSpq3ziM1 mAZiD1zazyp3pnsyra9N82YYxWFERp6go2knvPWzPk1pTSm5274ej8TaNGAhzafheVIucAyGL z7xfh0//q8OtzisqDiKoNyao7hAL6Bt3dW4c0sI593zkoJ/1jliBnOHn+Cj1iaF2NGPgsJ/y3 SL8+r3qjXFrCKJan5bih2KsscMHJBE0IltK1KRiK8p6x4GqNvtSfzpocY81Cd5v79SbHr1HFi hB2xOw== X-Archives-Salt: dcc443eb-eaec-4491-a688-45fd78eb5e1b X-Archives-Hash: 1bb78cfcfc32bc3caa11c13c733769d2 --dv7XZeTvCEyU+ush Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 10:05:27AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > Given how I plan to use this drive, that should last a long time.=C2=A0 I= 'm > just putting the OS stuff on the drive and I compile on a spinning rust > drive and use -k to install the built packages on the live system.=C2=A0 = That > should help minimize the writes. Well, 300 TB over 5 years is 60 TB per year, or 165 GB per day. Every day.= =20 I=E2=80=99d say don=E2=80=99t worry. Besides: endurance tests showed that S= SDs were able to=20 withstand multiples of their guaranteed TBW until they actually failed (of= =20 course there are always exceptions to the rule). > I read about that bytes written.=C2=A0 With the way you explained it, it > confirms what I was thinking it meant.=C2=A0 That's a lot of data.=C2=A0 I > currently have around 100TBs of drives lurking about, either in my rig > or for backups.=C2=A0 I'd have to write three times that amount of data on > that little drive.=C2=A0 That's a LOT of data for a 500GB drive.=C2=A0 If you use ext4, run `dumpe2fs -h /dev/your-root-partition | grep Lifetime`= =20 to see how much data has been written to that partition since you formatted= =20 it. Just to get an idea of what you are looking at on your setup. --=20 Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe | Greetings | Qapla=E2=80=99 Please do not share anything from, with or about me on any social network. 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