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From: Philip Webb <purslow@ca.inter.net>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : glances at gparted
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2025 13:54:07 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z7TXT4X-IlDe3fNq@ca.inter.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3140915.CbtlEUcBR6@rogueboard>

250218 Michael wrote:

-- details of using 'f3probe' snipped --
 
> This is good news, it confirms neither of them are counterfeit units.
> However, the 2nd stick appears to be defective.  It takes almost 3.5 times
> as long than the first stick and from what we know for no good reason.
> This indicates the second stick has bad flash cells,
> a bad flash controller, or both.  I would return the bad stick as defective,
> asking for it to be replaced.
> 
> In my experience stores are box shifters.  Goods In - Goods Out.
> They try to buy from wholesalers with whom they have some relationship
> based on price-reliability-convenience and who they hope
> also apply similar criteria in their relationships up the supply chain.
> Any link in this chain can go wrong and you end up with bad goods.
> I don't expect them to perform QA/QC
> beyond looking at the shipping labels and customs declarations.
> The manufacturers may perform some actual quality checks on a sampling basis
> after the prototypes have been put together
> and the brand reps may audit the odd production run.
> I would think the rigour of such checks
> is proportional to the value of the assembled items.

Yes, that's very much what one would expect of any successful retailer.
My experience with Canada Computers since 2000 --  25 yr  -- has been good :
they do try not to sell anything which cb unreliable.
However, as you say, all it takes is  1  broken link in a long chain.

I tried formatting one of the sticks using Gparted + Glances.
After  10 hr  while I was asleep, it had formatted  1  partition
& was clearly stalled on the 2nd : the Parted progress bar was moving to-fro,
Glances reported critically high CPU I/O wait of  c 25 %
& that it was writing small amounts of data to the partition every  30 sec .
I had to cancel Gparted from the root command line
& then tested the 1st partition, which allowed me to edit a file,
but was very slow at everything.

So yes, at least  1  of the sticks is unusable & probably both.
I can take/mail them back to the store & ask them to test them with Linux
& refund my CAD if they confirm they're defective.
I would expect this store to be honorable re it
& to be pleased to have someone report the problem
st they can report back to their supplier & avoid future trouble.

Frank had a useful suggestion re alternative devices,
which I will reply to separately.  Your own comments thereon wb useful.

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-18 18:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-15  7:41 [gentoo-user] problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick Philip Webb
2025-02-15 11:50 ` [gentoo-user] " Nuno Silva
2025-02-15 13:31   ` Michael
2025-02-16  2:37     ` Philip Webb
2025-02-16  9:08       ` Nuno Silva
2025-02-16 13:41         ` Michael
2025-02-16 14:48           ` Wols Lists
2025-02-17 23:12           ` Frank Steinmetzger
2025-02-18 11:53             ` Michael
2025-02-19 12:10               ` Frank Steinmetzger
2025-02-20  9:58                 ` Michael
2025-02-16 22:57       ` [gentoo-user] problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : more info Philip Webb
2025-02-17  0:17         ` [gentoo-user] " Nuno Silva
2025-02-17  0:39         ` [gentoo-user] " Michael
2025-02-17  3:43           ` Philip Webb
2025-02-17  9:18             ` Philip Webb
2025-02-17 12:02               ` Michael
2025-02-17 16:33                 ` Stroller
2025-02-17 16:19             ` Wols Lists
2025-02-17 17:16             ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2025-02-17 18:12               ` Michael
2025-02-18  3:46                 ` [gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : f3 Philip Webb
2025-02-18  4:43                   ` Grant Edwards
2025-02-18  5:53                     ` Philip Webb
2025-02-18  9:13                       ` Frank Steinmetzger
2025-02-18 19:10                         ` [gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : alternatives Philip Webb
2025-02-18 21:18                           ` Grant Edwards
2025-02-18 23:25                             ` Michael
2025-02-19 12:16                               ` Frank Steinmetzger
2025-02-19 12:20                           ` Frank Steinmetzger
2025-02-20 10:47                             ` Michael
2025-02-18 14:40                       ` [gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : f3 Grant Edwards
2025-02-18 17:00                         ` Grant Edwards
2025-02-18 11:57                   ` Michael
2025-02-18 18:54                     ` Philip Webb [this message]
2025-02-18 23:13                       ` [gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : glances at gparted Michael
2025-02-19  0:47                         ` Grant Edwards
2025-02-19  1:12                           ` [gentoo-user] alternatives to USB sticks for reliable archiving Philip Webb
2025-02-19  2:28                             ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2025-02-19  9:48                             ` [gentoo-user] " Michael
2025-02-19  3:00                         ` [gentoo-user] Re: problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick : glances at gparted eric
2025-02-20 18:18                         ` Dale
2025-02-20 22:40                           ` Frank Steinmetzger
2025-02-20 23:43                             ` Grant Edwards
2025-02-21  8:10                               ` Dale
2025-03-08 22:09                             ` Frank Steinmetzger
2025-03-08 22:48                               ` Dale
2025-03-09 10:31                                 ` Michael
2025-03-10  3:32                                   ` Dale
2025-03-10 13:01                                     ` Frank Steinmetzger
2025-02-17 16:38 ` [gentoo-user] problem formatting new 256 GB USB stick Stroller
2025-02-17 23:06   ` Frank Steinmetzger

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