From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F2691580FD for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2024 23:01:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E64D2E0798; Mon, 23 Dec 2024 23:01:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mp-relay-01.fibernetics.ca (mp-relay-01.fibernetics.ca [208.85.217.136]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42932E077C for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2024 23:01:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailpool-fe-01.fibernetics.ca (mailpool-fe-01.fibernetics.ca [208.85.217.144]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mp-relay-01.fibernetics.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 060E4E0D1C for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2024 23:01:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (mailpool-mx-01.fibernetics.ca [208.85.217.140]) by mailpool-fe-01.fibernetics.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02D0636431 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2024 23:01:39 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.3 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1, BAYES_50=0.8, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mailpool-fe-01.fibernetics.ca ([208.85.217.144]) by localhost (mail-mx-01.fibernetics.ca [208.85.217.140]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oqup6F1iXBfC for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2024 23:01:38 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ca.inter.net; s=mail; t=1734994898; bh=tWrMk/UWxJ5T0avkwRhfBZ/UBdT7Er+GQFkvFJL3CwU=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=ht3WD24zKig+gxx27HLJZ5R2T5cPEf/0EndmIx2GYk2lmmQcF1phymsKC7zZfw832 NQWFWh70Vwc2e8muDS5CxKqoIjWVQg/j/IdNfDQG82H0GXh6dOts/brZnxfEhqpKup /xl/omwCRYdSVEpEYY9NwsLcJaT9A6zHYHQ7Sd/+K+rv3ijWNnG5ay7D9ld3cP/ScP fqnBirsJeWE6giYoRp6tyXQkW6BBKEMJJq0jw3XA82owqIpGG4t2k2oZUStmx7NAcm SX/ASOw3Uh9psAbliMff1/VOQ54QyzY/etKLYYbwGzL9W8Tc5qdHdZ1dQjbY3XO7OH 8yNWg5A7crmZA== Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2024 18:01:36 -0500 From: Philip Webb To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 5 hangs around Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <57818ef3-31b3-4a03-870d-bd85d1cdf34c@gentoo.org> <13ef5bd3-ff95-4ac0-a889-7eee21c14a94@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <13ef5bd3-ff95-4ac0-a889-7eee21c14a94@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: 05abf00e-ddbb-4408-b257-2240c4e00705 X-Archives-Hash: 6d71dc6d2df4a6fec864065438a2d2c6 241209 Eli Schwartz wrote: > your output below for "emerge -pv kio" is showing that installing > kio:6 fails due to needing an updated kwidgetsaddons-6.7, > which cannot be upgraded on its own as it needs to be updated in lockstep > with kxmlgui knewstuff ktexteditor kiconthemes frameworkintegration kwallet > kcmutils and various other packages. Yes, that's my experience w KDE + Qt in the past. I solved the problem as before by logging into Fluxbox, removing KDE Apps Plasma Frameworks via @-files & re-installing ditto in reverse order ; everything worked. > Since you could not install kio:6, emerge tried to install kio:5 instead. > Naturally, kio:5 depends on various KDE 5 packages. That's lunatic ! -- very few, if any, users would want to do that. Portage lacks intelligence & it shows an obtuse face to users. It's been there largely unchanged since I started using Gentoo in 2003. It's high time some effort was put into a serious update. > Lots of software still exists which was written during the KDE 5 days > and doesn't have active upstream maintainers. Those tend to take a while > to update, and not all will end up updating at all -- some packages > may end up dropped for their lack of maintenance, eventually. Yes indeed : I dropped my favorite file-manager Krusader, which won't work with KDE 6 ; perhaps it wb brought upto-date one day. -- ========================,,============================================ SUPPORT ___________//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT `-O----------O---' purslowatcadotinterdotnet