From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C3CF5158091 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2022 09:40:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 98313E08FC; Fri, 3 Jun 2022 09:40:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ed1-x531.google.com (mail-ed1-x531.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::531]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB0FBE088F for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2022 09:40:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ed1-x531.google.com with SMTP id c2so9412355edf.5 for ; Fri, 03 Jun 2022 02:40:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=gV0LRcQn6nBnGenyI81wxhk2MQXg24OIS8oGh6AlLwM=; b=duvDpCps9G0kAeBDot3xihq3oflrYizxuiRsIazglSnA2UMFyowFsXxbb94EOjDXea 0Pu8hXqW2YXGmziX2XOxMFqXy7InE1d967jDAInQKaXacyyr+5cQHPuNCN98ufgmNLkw 67pahLpIy2XfafeByU4lx8HtO9peBlLMjimF8iUuECIRjldXiXxBVi1YjSfx78xFgock Pv6hnn63omrlDMEw5y0GUH9pACuk1wvxPppr0yVpwSHJp/JU9zfp6+oUqTr4jB91QVDP JgQphx+bs5j7PHD46xFDDhQrBvq8D7d3Yr5E0d2wOabC7k3jfDtMzU6dyUZA+bqHJxiQ UlRw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=gV0LRcQn6nBnGenyI81wxhk2MQXg24OIS8oGh6AlLwM=; b=Nd+akxZBHjnW67rx3r3xXaG/5ewl2e5Hh+GBDnkoWEvXnIDoUGntJih9wdHW4052MT uJoURpzwB9jdqNnAcliGbzy7kvPnh/qJq15QAgFTHNiGY0UWaZAYhMXMmklk8o/QK+wl W2Yl5V9uC+5Ug7fPcCY3wkGO3tZxt399IqBzjnw2VvhwqrWyBknRGII0jB2jBN/DxbT8 ByNWUsUc5Bz4qzMVzsLg7ptKcMURyWcNIgwSwnU/SY5PgqtUUflzF6vl9AbGcGzBI7Ta 5CQyFYHxq/5HmttKy4P7+9krM1sa91DVjx55IhwQUtPZzjsokPQemzMQtQIFY1q0W1uv xOow== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5322CLSsRFUqb/V6mQeJ3bqCjFyyyHSrJB4fNg3Yq/ZhYPkVSSzc Vu+hRFOXk90wRK8t7Y1adyvHryGl2+fqdA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzqMQsGn2PIyMk4YSQ49KClBbfnpEIGqyOjfj1BykhaK/SYI/O2V6GzEduCgP713wf9xy+ZHA== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:354f:b0:42e:1f02:1379 with SMTP id f15-20020a056402354f00b0042e1f021379mr5955474edd.401.1654249199677; Fri, 03 Jun 2022 02:39:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from desktop (92.40.203.112.threembb.co.uk. [92.40.203.112]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id qu19-20020a170907111300b006fe960c5c5asm2673257ejb.126.2022.06.03.02.39.58 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 03 Jun 2022 02:39:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2022 10:39:23 +0000 From: spareproject776 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Seamonkey automatic email download after switch to Oauth2 Message-ID: References: <33106514-ceee-9041-88de-aed91f414a10@gmail.com> <8074927.T7Z3S40VBb@dell_xps> <45a212ed-56fe-fd60-b144-bc761b43e443@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45a212ed-56fe-fd60-b144-bc761b43e443@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 95c62664-e5d4-4afb-ae5c-2b2c4c2477e6 X-Archives-Hash: 3ada09a92df35a97cccc184f555dc9e9 They turned off the ability to use smtp pop3 or imap over cleartext a while ago. They only expose it over tls wrapped ports. Your client wouldn't even be able to get as far as sending it. Also forces SASL which is tldr for echo 'username password'|base64 before sending it. Once you enable 2fa for the account, you can recreate an application password. Funnily enough my old password was stronger than a 16 char string : / all in all they just force reduced password length. Whilst forcing sms verification allowing account take over from sim swapping :'( For the record this is sent from mutt using app password without oauth. --