[gentoo-user] Dolphin and missing paste file option in right click menu.

[gentoo-user] Dolphin and missing paste file option in right click menu.

[Dale]

Howdy,

I did my weekly updates this past Sunday.  I noticed one change I like. 
If I put my mouse pointer over a video file, it does like a animated
preview thingy.  I've seen some websites do that and it is kinda nifty. 
Then I noticed something that is missing and I use that a LOT, I mean a
whole LOT.  When I move a file(s) from one place to another, I either
use Cut or Copy where the file is located and then use Paste where I
want it to go.  I can do the Cut and Copy part, they are in the right
click menu as always.  However, the Paste option is gone.  It's not
grayed out or something, its just plain gone, everywhere.  At first I
thought it was a settings issue but I've checked the settings and can't
find anything about it.  Then I moved on to permissions, nothing there. 
As I said, Cut and Copy is there.  Even Move to Trash is there.  Only
the Paste option is missing which I find kinda odd really.  What is also
odd, I can't find a setting for Cut or Copy either.

This is either a bug or I'm not looking in the right place to enable
this again.  Since I can't find Cut or Copy in settings, maybe I'm
looking in the wrong place.  Then again, maybe something got removed,
disabled Paste and removed the option to control Cut and Copy too.  I'm
not sure which it is but I'd really like to have this option again. 

I might add, doing a ctrl + v to paste works.  I'm doing that for now
but really miss the Paste option with the mouse. 

Anyone else notice this or just me?  Am I missing where the setting to
control this is?  Is it just gone?  Thoughts?

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin and missing paste file option in right click menu.

[Mark Knecht]

On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 12:37 PM Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Howdy,
>
> I did my weekly updates this past Sunday.  I noticed one change I like.
> If I put my mouse pointer over a video file, it does like a animated
> preview thingy.  I've seen some websites do that and it is kinda nifty.
> Then I noticed something that is missing and I use that a LOT, I mean a
> whole LOT.  When I move a file(s) from one place to another, I either
> use Cut or Copy where the file is located and then use Paste where I
> want it to go.  I can do the Cut and Copy part, they are in the right
> click menu as always.  However, the Paste option is gone.  It's not
> grayed out or something, its just plain gone, everywhere.  At first I
> thought it was a settings issue but I've checked the settings and can't
> find anything about it.  Then I moved on to permissions, nothing there.
> As I said, Cut and Copy is there.  Even Move to Trash is there.  Only
> the Paste option is missing which I find kinda odd really.  What is also
> odd, I can't find a setting for Cut or Copy either.
>
> This is either a bug or I'm not looking in the right place to enable
> this again.  Since I can't find Cut or Copy in settings, maybe I'm
> looking in the wrong place.  Then again, maybe something got removed,
> disabled Paste and removed the option to control Cut and Copy too.  I'm
> not sure which it is but I'd really like to have this option again.
>
> I might add, doing a ctrl + v to paste works.  I'm doing that for now
> but really miss the Paste option with the mouse.
>
> Anyone else notice this or just me?  Am I missing where the setting to
> control this is?  Is it just gone?  Thoughts?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)
>

On my system when I move to a new location and right click that's when
I see the 'paste one file' option.

HTH,
Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin and missing paste file option in right click menu.

[Dale]

Mark Knecht wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 12:37 PM Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Howdy,
>>
>> I did my weekly updates this past Sunday.  I noticed one change I like.
>> If I put my mouse pointer over a video file, it does like a animated
>> preview thingy.  I've seen some websites do that and it is kinda nifty.
>> Then I noticed something that is missing and I use that a LOT, I mean a
>> whole LOT.  When I move a file(s) from one place to another, I either
>> use Cut or Copy where the file is located and then use Paste where I
>> want it to go.  I can do the Cut and Copy part, they are in the right
>> click menu as always.  However, the Paste option is gone.  It's not
>> grayed out or something, its just plain gone, everywhere.  At first I
>> thought it was a settings issue but I've checked the settings and can't
>> find anything about it.  Then I moved on to permissions, nothing there.
>> As I said, Cut and Copy is there.  Even Move to Trash is there.  Only
>> the Paste option is missing which I find kinda odd really.  What is also
>> odd, I can't find a setting for Cut or Copy either.
>>
>> This is either a bug or I'm not looking in the right place to enable
>> this again.  Since I can't find Cut or Copy in settings, maybe I'm
>> looking in the wrong place.  Then again, maybe something got removed,
>> disabled Paste and removed the option to control Cut and Copy too.  I'm
>> not sure which it is but I'd really like to have this option again.
>>
>> I might add, doing a ctrl + v to paste works.  I'm doing that for now
>> but really miss the Paste option with the mouse.
>>
>> Anyone else notice this or just me?  Am I missing where the setting to
>> control this is?  Is it just gone?  Thoughts?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-)
>>
> On my system when I move to a new location and right click that's when
> I see the 'paste one file' option.
>
> HTH,
> Mark
>
>

That's what I used to have here.  Now when I go to where I want to put a
file, either Cut or Copy from previous location, I have to do a ctrl + v
to paste in the new location.  I think other options are missing to but
I can't remember what all used to be there.  I mostly use Cut, Copy and
Paste.  I do have the option to create a directory or text file still. 
Some things are there but Paste isn't one of them. 

Oh, I'm on Dolphin version 22.04.0.  Forgot to include that.  I run
unstable on KDE and related stuff. 

It's confusing. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin and missing paste file option in right click menu.

[Mark Knecht]

On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 1:22 PM Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
<SNIP>
>
> That's what I used to have here.  Now when I go to where I want to put a
> file, either Cut or Copy from previous location, I have to do a ctrl + v
> to paste in the new location.  I think other options are missing to but
> I can't remember what all used to be there.  I mostly use Cut, Copy and
> Paste.  I do have the option to create a directory or text file still.
> Some things are there but Paste isn't one of them.
>
> Oh, I'm on Dolphin version 22.04.0.  Forgot to include that.  I run
> unstable on KDE and related stuff.
>
> It's confusing.
>
> Dale

I'm on Kubuntu. Dolphin is 21.12.3 which is probably closer to what
you were running before.

File a bug somewhere I guess... ;-)

Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin and missing paste file option in right click menu.

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 14:37:12 -0500, Dale wrote:

> I did my weekly updates this past Sunday.  I noticed one change I like. 
> If I put my mouse pointer over a video file, it does like a animated
> preview thingy.  I've seen some websites do that and it is kinda nifty. 
> Then I noticed something that is missing and I use that a LOT, I mean a
> whole LOT.  When I move a file(s) from one place to another, I either
> use Cut or Copy where the file is located and then use Paste where I
> want it to go.  I can do the Cut and Copy part, they are in the right
> click menu as always.  However, the Paste option is gone.

I'm running 22.04.0, I don't normally use this but just tried it. The
paste option is only available when the mouse is not over a file. In one
of the icon modes that is any empty space but in details mode I had to
right click in the small space on the left of the listing.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin and missing paste file option in right click menu.

[Dale]

Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 14:37:12 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>> I did my weekly updates this past Sunday.  I noticed one change I like. 
>> If I put my mouse pointer over a video file, it does like a animated
>> preview thingy.  I've seen some websites do that and it is kinda nifty. 
>> Then I noticed something that is missing and I use that a LOT, I mean a
>> whole LOT.  When I move a file(s) from one place to another, I either
>> use Cut or Copy where the file is located and then use Paste where I
>> want it to go.  I can do the Cut and Copy part, they are in the right
>> click menu as always.  However, the Paste option is gone.
> I'm running 22.04.0, I don't normally use this but just tried it. The
> paste option is only available when the mouse is not over a file. In one
> of the icon modes that is any empty space but in details mode I had to
> right click in the small space on the left of the listing.
>
>


That works here too.  As you point out, it doesn't work elsewhere like
it used to tho.  Odd.  I suspect it will be fixed with the next version. 

I tried to go back to a older version but it wants older versions of
other KDE packages too.  I was wanting to see how it worked in the old
version again, compare things.  Oh well.  At least you got me a way to
make it work until they give it a proper fix. 

Thanks much.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin and missing paste file option in right click menu.

[Andrew Lowe]

On 28/4/22 9:55 pm, Dale wrote:
> Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 14:37:12 -0500, Dale wrote:
>>
>>> I did my weekly updates this past Sunday.  I noticed one change I like.
[snip]


[snip]
> 
> 
> That works here too.  As you point out, it doesn't work elsewhere like
> it used to tho.  Odd.  I suspect it will be fixed with the next version.
> 
> I tried to go back to a older version but it wants older versions of
> other KDE packages too.  I was wanting to see how it worked in the old
> version again, compare things.  Oh well.  At least you got me a way to
> make it work until they give it a proper fix.
> 
> Thanks much.
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-)
> 

	Broken for me as well. I did a big update a few days ago and had 
noticed the same problem. I was about to  post the same as Dales 
original post when Dales popped up. I agree with Neil, about being near 
a file and clicking on the LHS.

	If I remember correctly, and I'm quite prepared to be corrected here, 
in the earlier versions the "highlight bar" only covered the file/dir 
name, not right across the whole window, Size, Modified, Type etc. Now 
it does, from the vertical line that indicates the dir tree right across 
to the RHS of the window. It does not extend right to the edge of the 
LHS of the window from the vertical line and that's the part that Neil 
identified. I'm guessing that dolphin somehow uses the highlight colour, 
the "highlight bar", to indicate location within the window and in turn 
as to whether things can be pasted there or not.

	If I didn't have, literally, three solid days of 1st year engineering 
students submissions to mark, I would have a quick squizz at the dolphin 
code, but it's out of the question at the moment. There is nothing on 
the Gentoo bugs thingy regarding Dolphin. I think I'll be waiting until 
the next update....

	Andrew

Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin and missing paste file option in right click menu.

[Peter Humphrey]

On Thursday, 28 April 2022 13:55:05 -00 Dale wrote:

> I tried to go back to a older version but it wants older versions of
> other KDE packages too.  I was wanting to see how it worked in the old
> version again, compare things.  Oh well.  At least you got me a way to
> make it work until they give it a proper fix. 

You could try recovering from backup into a spare partition.

When I'm moving things around in Dolphin I just drag them with a mouse. That 
sometimes needs another window open at the destination, but it works well 
enough for me.

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin and missing paste file option in right click menu.

[Frank Steinmetzger]

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Am Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 02:37:12PM -0500 schrieb Dale:
> Howdy,
> 
> I did my weekly updates this past Sunday.  I noticed one change I like. 
> If I put my mouse pointer over a video file, it does like a animated
> preview thingy.  I've seen some websites do that and it is kinda nifty. 
> Then I noticed something that is missing and I use that a LOT, I mean a
> whole LOT.  When I move a file(s) from one place to another, I either
> use Cut or Copy where the file is located and then use Paste where I
> want it to go.  I can do the Cut and Copy part, they are in the right
> click menu as always.  However, the Paste option is gone.
> […]
> This is either a bug or I'm not looking in the right place to enable
> this again.
> […]
> Anyone else notice this or just me?  Am I missing where the setting to
> control this is?  Is it just gone?  Thoughts?

The menu entry appears once you actually have something to paste.
So copy/cut a file first.

Just reproduced it on my 22.04 Dolphin.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin and missing paste file option in right click menu.

[Dale]

Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> Am Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 02:37:12PM -0500 schrieb Dale:
>> Howdy,
>>
>> I did my weekly updates this past Sunday.  I noticed one change I like. 
>> If I put my mouse pointer over a video file, it does like a animated
>> preview thingy.  I've seen some websites do that and it is kinda nifty. 
>> Then I noticed something that is missing and I use that a LOT, I mean a
>> whole LOT.  When I move a file(s) from one place to another, I either
>> use Cut or Copy where the file is located and then use Paste where I
>> want it to go.  I can do the Cut and Copy part, they are in the right
>> click menu as always.  However, the Paste option is gone.
>> […]
>> This is either a bug or I'm not looking in the right place to enable
>> this again.
>> […]
>> Anyone else notice this or just me?  Am I missing where the setting to
>> control this is?  Is it just gone?  Thoughts?
> The menu entry appears once you actually have something to paste.
> So copy/cut a file first.
>
> Just reproduced it on my 22.04 Dolphin.
>


I always Cut or Copy first.  I been doing it that way for many years,
even back in the KDE3 days.  As pointed out by Neil, you have to put the
mouse pointer in a different place now.  Used to you could put it about
anywhere but now it has to be on the left side of the pane where there
is a empty space.  That works fine and is workable but have to remember
to do it that way now.  Maybe the old behavior will be back with the
next upgrade. 

Dale

:-)  :-)