From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5BD74158086 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 2021 21:34:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0E1572BC05C; Mon, 13 Dec 2021 21:34:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 18D332BC03F for ; Mon, 13 Dec 2021 21:34:20 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1639431250; bh=37djsedalm/TDjP5KwWU8h0N5oEVe9KkkdDY8/u5U54=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=DSOsyjmN7eL1YVy0oF6nblLbK9LYxWKTG0wmibILQ1ASs24qyhlR1xf+ytuz1lEMF YnPIghTVh155yk/qT3QGkFJXwJBu1rqXbKOFK7ShApJWyw83PyNn2BOFDOnnegWx/T oZReB/0a3JItF3yT8s2rqZcNiIsFGmgoiYcR33CY= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from kern ([92.117.45.183]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1M5QJJ-1mvVW30icX-001TXr for ; Mon, 13 Dec 2021 22:34:10 +0100 Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 22:34:08 +0100 From: Frank Steinmetzger To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Local mail delivery agent (MDA) wanted Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <20211213204005.3317f4c7@ventiloplattform.tastytea.de> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lRTTwQ9hApVnZsUD" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20211213204005.3317f4c7@ventiloplattform.tastytea.de> User-Agent: Mutt 2.1.4; VIM - Vi IMproved 8.2 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:z+0HUztPiEYnjKZg2upolHC88BIqMefvmZ7TXI8zK2MuPXBXsH8 XLSAVTVFl9X/UCwpnsOXqrI6wUYP2Jk3pExptUnlueo/EANigWNYL0NELLlosobY3ly9uzT 0qws/U+KLalRfHlX/Pe/W/p9v/JbZf4F3yuCdfJfI4VuVE+9erKzwhKJP2XF8RLudaIwZfo I2ganRr/E4yuuIBE5/4CQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:XGugiYgG6DA=:nvXqIwJktQPdkoayBP4OH/ XlWEl6wTnnatfH5DxZZMNtBhemDgfDweLnWBOkCGf1KXSh3POegUGMwYLb6xURYMU4iMX6TKZ S5zD4pD7OAeKrMDVaiaq7Cj92ZTyEzwCh/LPQm9lwjqwDpCNis/CgygEHuEcQaCvum/ssVRXR 7cAJ+eVz/0foEoE01v+UUNqt/8bF1MkveUwGTl9rJ9GHnLTIBwJK1ES7X8lR/GiwuAalGuHX5 /TzxBKJAtUgKv6jTdiBU0rAl3am0ve5o9QVatVCIx5BSSsRmN230DLysXmU5NYqWMj30prGkV s5ppjOZAjRvS0nJuxnvLErLVPrpZMBgtuFnGTAiJKMKhHJace06hyU7cgAd6Y3Gp+lqZJPzpG 8We+9/mlW+0YbC+s2Tx3JQ2XQPCDN538NLBwiYLQxVvnGBQ/Q2sb5BfAiCUmMXT1Ao2VCexfi XNbUWREelOm2Pmd0hO53Yd7swI2kq+FbU+XOi6DPoQX4Rrc/XBZsVBXOIgN5YA9NMdgD0XY3j bRtTa51o4c3VnYK/iqFdoVoiPXemvOtdb/LGIbbTMLhMc5+EINos+OcyDwkS+klpunu7S2a3b /60Fqg31to7LXr42lIsb5Cc1tJCHZXLXuI/Y8QpzXwQQxlEkfAlzcFZU8S6Oa/TkET3wxK60H u4tS3WaZGyoUHyrf6UQgwWkI6QDm2V25RTp+dCMnIbZijPaXmpUVhaG48uFMVojDCpiQql+4w kkwHQnqJvwjgiNlCpLVG0A6mqn8E7XVbQsUbeEFqwU5SbIFlgvWJvG/4qzQxbZ+iV2MnUgmHh bc/e4fkFXvA9v8hIj/7f013gfLYfklm9kA0EuVsywND4/bSxa54twupoLIB0n+p1yfv2hAkpr Mysk6vAnj3NeZfhZCw3mQtdZDnhNvp4eK7Aw5ytBgO1tXxbP8NcHFiJCdyAYksP0hWUeJc9NN OFHcAo30vbyW+UXa6EesodHoaa3fDv4TmGZuyWOR/OViX+ZfwX5ys43pm/yvXjryxg/6NfSam KbhyosrhFfFSJQqeAR5b34Sg4YZTdVpgfcKbzqiNTkK8nGyg7nLnsOQxUiqx6+E/6Bv9v6sW1 Ut94YHrZRdLmew= X-Archives-Salt: 5ac45e43-fdae-4e0e-99ea-13d2520eaaf6 X-Archives-Hash: a007cd7c4b8198020cd2ffed38116df3 --lRTTwQ9hApVnZsUD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 08:40:05PM +0100 schrieb tastytea: > On 2021-12-12 14:25+0100 Frank Steinmetzger wrote: >=20 > > Hey list, > >=20 > > I am looking for an as-simple-as-possible setup for local mail > > delivery. What I mean by that is: the mail shall go into > > /var/spool/mail locally, which is why I deem it overkill to set up > > and run a complicated smtpd daemon with its own config file language. >=20 > mail-client/mailx provides /usr/bin/mail which can be used for looking > at mail in /var/spool/mail/ and for sending it to local users. No > configuration necessary. cron and other software will automatically use > it. OK, it looks promising -- very neatly small and tiny. But: lcars ~ # echo hello | mail root lcars ~ # mail No mail for root lcars ~ # Using strace, I found out that mail from mailx puts those mail into /var/spool/clientmqueue/, one file per mail, but not in a maildir structure. I had similar issues with mailutils=E2=80=99 mda. The ebuild installs no ma= npage and the package=E2=80=99s website simply points to debian.org. -_- In many places I read that system mail=E2=80=94by default=E2=80=94goes into /var/spool/mail/, but until now I=E2=80=99ve yet to observe this beha= vior. It=E2=80=99s becoming a little frustrating by now. This is also not my firs= t attempt at this; I tried this before in the past years but never reached the goal. --=20 Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe | Greetings | Qapla=E2=80=99 Please do not share anything from, with or about me on any social network. =E2=80=9CHodor.=E2=80=9D --lRTTwQ9hApVnZsUD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEEVbE9o2D2lE5fhoVsizG+tUDUMMoFAmG3vFAACgkQizG+tUDU MMq6tg/+MuJDktY2LJk8wSORfSrL68QSZTb74I1wicpg+SiYKdNWnlnHfdsFD1CL 82lEcrEbb8fWF2SUwbHCsCMh740YpkShl18ZtPq7WTJRxZy1RDiY6cqB9l3Pt4w1 oi6vjs1u3f8Vrc3RqhVHJqWm5JZ67TMQHbEiCOlN6dOpFPLprqcFlV0wn5YwYBl3 6+F3qjh4bdj7ZNwwhkAhH6fOcyqYUFRZw8RF/nlm5xw61JmGG54ATqpZ94rW9J6z R4zu5S2UwOXrMIZIDjR82Rrw6SC0RmQq+FMZrb9bwAZ4Nu6wlJtf+ZvmDPTpDCVj RC9h8vsQSVPVQF5Bc6LvX3Fx3V/yqA3cmtz3uih+PNtSV0nnnbLyZvFX2AqnzBDk utoGYuEdoXAqLOEH3l62a8XNTj2WXdxnkQcSuAtDVUUjAkESwZNJ94Si+FBJvPuV wifRK8sV0kvD51nLRQKRkVPHtvoC8cvWCUXDDgDLs6g6hlvJk307KoEGs77qyXKk JZLALBnmi524Yp3MYLhNvtP/XR+gg5QGnRkBkU7hXCfehNQFq9dd05W8z7xt4Cky 5FkytEKdUuk8kk0pWdJCSqk9NkpHxmISwbigu92VnYPu1fgW2mJK/ahe2iXxBu4a UrhOlUo5SiLe72Wtb1VAl6y71h+YHvlod93dq96YZzBK1B7XONQ= =kiL1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lRTTwQ9hApVnZsUD--