From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8C7BE158086 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 2021 20:24:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D517E0952; Wed, 6 Oct 2021 20:24:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C8CC9E084A for ; Wed, 6 Oct 2021 20:24:21 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1633551849; bh=mIZE+7Uvk8cVcjdsM7lRysUcaYPv4IGVd7+BN0dcE/o=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=G5oGFIMvcdMAv5OtQ927USWaGP15YNJfTn9M4hN0o32TN+2+27oRlVzT9WXVHS5lm KlTlfIYLgW+Trv/5AUgFaRF4y4bJRPMMdoIFuttTxZcXoDg0cGvZ1EF2PYynAtBFaO /dtkAOfyq3GcJJlpZabsWlf/VHiAU0zWCHBG16xI= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from kern ([92.117.58.101]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx005 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1N7zBR-1muCJm0BiV-014zsy for ; Wed, 06 Oct 2021 22:24:09 +0200 Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 22:24:07 +0200 From: Frank Steinmetzger To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive pricing and the near future Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <3e528088-4325-202d-cd1f-f29efb42638d@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LRzaZIU+jDcBoNFt" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3e528088-4325-202d-cd1f-f29efb42638d@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt 2.1.3; VIM - Vi IMproved 8.2 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:o8WBVgCXRdvAXYvg0tJ6A6XpcCTV6WbhiWqTzJK9Gk9nSpWgIN0 IVNDR/cx7IxhGoXm4q6BVG5Ka218U1mcwEy4sjcAsr1xUhHFIwwj6+n2fv8mtZcV1Xj0mh5 RBA4lPZz+NjAzK3HF7TMyNh5P/+VwkyEQkJPEjzquWedrGGUnIIuMTlEY0QG8YxiaM1JH5R AM4AMovYf69ORM2a9b4AA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:CY1euD5THZ8=:1jmiQQcaTRrOylS7Qv/lH0 5Cqz6huCPhqUpORnOX1Shk6TUI2ujaKevpk43akyelV1+DPzko+ShDZ1toVkzaJ8HudEOGc6q b/5dbpkOfJVWyZLX4pPl3LyxV2hO4gb+QhRNg573K+ja5Qa0fNWlZCuY/cBJ/zDVOhQp03ww9 dF22BY3RazDZvUAZQIUlHFE0eO8Kj8iJZQdeDfrcxwSQalJjrJ/F/5TNr2/aEdxW85QcurWnK 5/VZWWA6jMcXHJ199Di/aTNVuPgqeVNT8uB3RdMXZVkEKIwcSLQRxZCTl7trQLjHUZgKHcBAZ 0HV16PFzNHF5ycwuIvYMDN/nyWG5UtC8n/BEx2xR5PnpS+xiMKOiZ0vp1EU55Idv1NzodkKdS rMh0WaKWz4e4zb5zHSwkXgEzqlg1SWc4N7QzkiWLuRmE9c+u7CrXUGYRBndZJsaCrDNOFf6K+ jOfU62SH+urcKLQiWFiMk7g496meFKqTwt+PjC5M8YBZeqipTYZOmbk8XZLyMFIQOeqsF041t cE2Wegna348ma9xvDNwlwIRENdu4Chuw3yyhR2sROH00JmvMO2Gn8VmcuSQ/BCpQzxasFOxpO i11bpkCGK0B7dLb7QubfybKFCD3D2c8cA+uAM947m0evQWPk2NPl/qf8fUvxUiBPK8Ir6+66D jKRlFFILU4zipi1ntqfFDfikF13wPqTIY8cuVZ8xRr6hv3WsEhhfYLjr4ekqrTKjDxFg67xcM kdEcwJ0+z8838z6/qAna+tMRCAZs/C/UxedcHfZMlPUXRszWm7N6M9psLeksATL2knZppJvVM FDLtc3zQPYHGEnYkzcNTt+OhmAQGwoLRbUj5kd+1r5g19gWPELRxqU0ior6P/Mu5QfpYQsxMQ l+OwXcxKZmlXQF3NbKl2xf4qftAubcM7lntRA9nVsFqrnVrPlLoYYOLTHqkA0qYJQq7FkrS0O Qgg3vlPDS6gnJJ4AQbzc/jUDIPZtSN7ViA4baxxWvqoQnFseYB6p2txxQKoXJxkC+pFqUAkvZ Ibr5pHPkdQ/GhFRpv6FRr+bqZXsCPuv5jHdzxzDEVvVL2pHSedpAVqfHy69LUPsFS5Eu7VoOy JPL12dR4i52A6Y= X-Archives-Salt: 3b513e86-b4e8-4695-b442-6e9c0fdc9ede X-Archives-Hash: caf6de0c4577357f86e1716ccb8362ec --LRzaZIU+jDcBoNFt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am Tue, Oct 05, 2021 at 06:32:24PM -0500 schrieb Dale: > Howdy all, > [=E2=80=A6] > If anyone reading this does track the pricing of drives, are they on the > rise, stable, dropping or what?=C2=A0 Is this a good time to expand while= it > is more cost effective? Well I=E2=80=99m on ye Olde Continent and here I use a price search engine = called geizhals (German for scrooge). But they have an English equivalent ;-) and of course use European pricing schemes (meaning including taxes, which you do different). https://skinflint.co.uk/?m=3D1 The big difference here: it allows you to filter and sort by all sorts of criteria, such as being (non-)SMR or price/TB. And it shows you the prices of lots of different shops, including Amazon. So while it may not give you an idea of the US market, it gives you one of available drive models. For instance, here are all internal non-SMR 3.5=E2=80=B3 drives of 6 TB and= up: https://skinflint.co.uk/?cat=3Dhde7s&xf=3D1080_SATA+1.5Gb%2Fs%7E1080_SATA+3= Gb%2Fs%7E1080_SATA+6Gb%2Fs%7E13810_6000%7E3772_3.5%7E8457_non-SMR I like to buy naked drives, because I don=E2=80=99t like =E2=80=9Ccable sal= ad=E2=80=9D, i.e. having multiple external cases, each needing its own special power supply. Instead, I=E2=80=99d opt for a hard drive dock which lets you insert a hard disk as = if it were an SD card. Actually, I use this internal bay for my PC case: https://skinflint.co.uk/sharkoon-sata-quickport-internal-multi-a862667.html It eats standard SATA drives and is connected via standard connectors to my PSU and mobo. > However, in a year or so, I'm getting fiber internet, dang fast at that.= =C2=A0 > It's starts at 200Mb but still over a 100 times faster than current > connection.=C2=A0 It goes all the way up to 1Gb.=C2=A0 God help us all.= =C2=A0 ROFL But when are you ever going to watch it all? --=20 Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe | Greetings | Qapla=E2=80=99 Please do not share anything from, with or about me on any social network. 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