From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D88B139360 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 2021 20:40:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 80D26E0848; Thu, 5 Aug 2021 20:40:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BEFA2E07A7 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 2021 20:40:17 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1628196006; bh=pXN/mK13guTbr9HEZ+n99oYMjDYAftgOZoB2Eg4rNpA=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=N5kt0t6MXvyAYaZr1jcpEZq05Cmi2IYMPuyD1nPKojvqJMu6UMdLGjeq9ZKBxzsL4 RUy66qioEngw7sqwzFhTej/+ORLNinzs0n2nxRO9iRKJwwIiO+OhL7crNfAQz3exNr scKr4KaukxX6sqQHcfVanL2EOaRafN0Zgpm2/3SU= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from kern ([92.117.38.93]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx005 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1M72oH-1mDfyM3j27-008aOF for ; Thu, 05 Aug 2021 22:40:05 +0200 Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2021 22:40:04 +0200 From: Frank Steinmetzger To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] SMR drives (WAS: cryptsetup close and device in use when it is not) Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <6104C897.5010505@youngman.org.uk> <7e6b56a2-917f-4dd6-3599-722bca5162ca@iinet.net.au> <7b00c8ee-b142-cd21-fc9e-77d272bb116e@iinet.net.au> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="iTois3b+ssGf9yTW" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt 2.1.1; VIM - Vi IMproved 8.2 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:5frCs1O4Aaq4vEkc8h3fTDUJdXZOnWrczT7WhR10jHc+IIYmN5n Bl+xZ8OyFbH6yAo9Au0NTd2/rJT3kKoPy2NdovZ9aFue1kDjxYzmBOIOIpRPpumJ1++3TdL 3K6TwCg8PLjAV9aa9EBjg2pz9nn6ALLQXOjJerbpj6HD8O0OpUsabbCm5ynGuLlWo+Ylers PCJlgoFv10O0Un5rUVlVg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:K5VqpPWKFs4=:zBsMW9jBX7ase109h7lKSy 4hESszxiAYbkHO+hn98TWZ28V04JThMNaRh0SP30hhYY2UoH7cLL3Whi8tDZNqXomKB81h6Da B+8ma0YMIFLOHHtVfUDkpxb0KI5ZkNJebyy7wnvjP5G++Zlw1mHUBJQZaxmJ5jcBX1y2JJKR1 L1b1OMBaxYdKfmEEGt6bFLk/R/ZMwyOk4QCJ54Jv6Hpk1KyS+sDMJ2BLLoI2Rmzlz4H92xEnR 57bZCysMH2QGU9JvskSU/0KX1rV1B6FzIFi8bbHpknUXOWJG59XOxANpTRTu7Nm26d/51uTTD +o4ycNURLBE3e/AeqeZm5nXMnGiL/EoFNRU/3s5lWpGIqXpRj+HT08BnRqkez1kDGH/q3gCHd 0CCLfKdJqf6WRkcC23odwGDgBPDPb8gI3hUc3FNgtIxydqZCsg4sYJGnJHRGQ1jWp+e0Y59pk 1nolXH9zbonQ8eq9xIGvVoMX7zie8Kq9UX8bs112DD161B2Y4HgKIrZZG3pwwy78OErJkxcN8 DQNNDhVNepVKejdI43t2UsBF1jHtEZ0/c/H1FFf9/YVbTedOZxHsrA3liL5r8Ed4S9w7Aj+MA s+5dBL2thWqmLzcA/dUjlmUqd6xoLJa47rL74AFU/VuaoNOtjSmIq7GUuA3zhjS+9ziAoatnZ Z0lfZk7gNf6G1y+FkKL3CPgWfUhqZks+rR92+FtcJluE1ayn7swHod8bCvsoY+ZFJuzeflG/N 6dA3bE6mn4H50xTmMlTFuMTRTDOJ0M4ieoc3bzZ/YXxmqwsVkVbSvR9/wtw/L1RKxt7Bij9KA O2rgntgk5uISW/1pQTwH7nYdQiWP5kYTnY7GcKUkGtSjwTQNQyORKls/ku4ZUA6hYw2rABDLd 54PmpAwJ8JyY79B8SuJkTTUXd5fB/Bwo0hdsWjOauXnlbm30nRJAd6WPDoPfttAi8kS0Su+T/ SjPOafEJtGld5e7HsZy6NMsA24cMSDKfpfBA+AFIw3UnPDq1hC4i28rxMNEt1tNKR6ZQotzg0 5662dSab0qs1yjHIvOLceqSVn3PCEUMMNVoK/X0HTmI+qWgVPrU3ZGeuzdwvQZbB5Kq7CEIdg chMtCu/F8KDufDDG6fJVAotXTOvOnIZ2c70 X-Archives-Salt: 4ccf3b14-08e4-4bdf-93be-b6acc41a95f4 X-Archives-Hash: 5e5d81d6bfd67606eb7226d6a5a3315f --iTois3b+ssGf9yTW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am Tue, Aug 03, 2021 at 10:18:06AM +0200 schrieb Frank Steinmetzger: > > You could delete and rebuild the cache each time (or I think there is a > > way to do without it). >=20 > If the cache can be easily rebuilt, then there=E2=80=99d be no need to st= ore it at > all. Here=E2=80=99s an afterthought that just hit me: there should actually be no point in archiving the cache at all. If you had a disaster and do a full restore from borg, the old cache data becomes invalid anyways, because the files=E2=80=99 inodes will now be different. A= FAIK, inodes are one way of detecting file changes. Different inode =E2=86=92 fil= e must be different =E2=86=92 rehash. (Unless `borg extract` updates the borg cache for files it restores, which I doubt because the destination path is arbitrary.) --=20 Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe | Greetings | Qapla=E2=80=99 Please do not share anything from, with or about me on any social network. Normal people believe that if it ain't broke, don't fix it. 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