From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1444A139337 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2021 21:01:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7A29AE096E; Mon, 26 Jul 2021 21:01:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.22]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 64BD4E095F for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2021 21:01:02 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1627333251; bh=we5gkOTcg66RnXe2zuL3RLYrW6A6oj2f7VOyM/bKYuw=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=B8Geru9q1YCXHwKvf0Uiws5Azgl9sf8LzDRA/CHe0O5j6QgYY+54nspprVKOnJunq uVV6tGxDFDsKxVzkc9aS+ylHhd+qtfe7QxUfOZMTUxJnZcbkTkGNQDxp6HKDXMxd1P PSGZs3EdMy8Mx4Jlo9MVShVse6F4ZZ7M5//flhlA= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from kern ([92.117.48.111]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1N1Obb-1l5gL33XMh-012owT for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2021 23:00:50 +0200 Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2021 23:00:49 +0200 From: Frank Steinmetzger To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] cryptsetup close and device in use when it is not Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <7c279941-291a-5078-a83f-601ff58a6008@gmail.com> <9946c2eb-bb5c-a9c0-ced9-1ac269cd69a0@gmail.com> <6ecbf2d6-2c6f-3f66-5eee-f4766d5e5254@gmail.com> <24805.48814.331408.860941@tux.local> <5483630c-3cd1-bca2-0a6d-62bb85a5adc6@gmail.com> <96fc901a-2ce4-0ea0-0ed1-1c529145c0e9@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gLHfYsxbzlgzuU+/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <96fc901a-2ce4-0ea0-0ed1-1c529145c0e9@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt 2.1.1; VIM - Vi IMproved 8.2 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:wKM+W0LFKP6j2Lho2CqR3nNkJsCEqQ8pPjZf6vlGoL8/8qtpdMp iMpeAfCCkJvyhcY9BdbzFW3V1Zh11e4EEasBMt5QtlfyF/Unhxwh5kacQqleq9XGR15UCDl 6jHFKwWER7MW9aSt6i+j6VLk3AdUQBfmxvhd5vEv6FsCb58JP9G73YLcxpflkrYtfdmHLoQ F9Yqg0H+ETr58pAievqHA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:oTl5/TIdoM8=:sUKV0BQyLG+JcOT0ELP2yY X2IqQoMgQ2FeDLYtw6kxDQuT6gsDgGscj/ZbP21hF3AzKW9gCxDxoT/scvMO3ebc55afPe8pI SKpP/FKJnwsiSOqqpzuYCVtNPQrHrv+unWo82ADikIi6zoRLREi8KWTRxdKHSgb7RiYSC7iEt dDAFI+CfaSsW5+zvH9qKqJdE2oy2JuLeFlHSQmdLPnFLj+9qgeS3/U4psT9Z4XgJpahArWS9P 4ltgsV6ZR1UGrQEjwHvAY1/RnCt3MNv1KKqWDHSgnLmEsTifDqQgIdJcxgOAVbXMX3fao1VQX 1o39D75jdPLFBddq9VvliFaGhmZZmE26TPFfxAICcGsNJPY1+SLQDtMWzq7/+ubre/biMBeF1 KxsjQj66faoxr4CZORSuR9hYQRRJrRxzO8DL61s17OFdsokJgDs3HivRgl5PRVl5w1dmjdttR RmOZ9PlPh9bog/iQPLImvejF/KhEGQT6zq0fwjrZG+hA9PYmyahuTZlzoRLlJZVwSNs+YIwD0 Xd61JzaNHOEZ9ieDdjJ9BfAjjnxgbsaTFNQOOF9i5a7zwelBFGiKSJFcEYFflEHJa0zARYArM 20ew+iuxCa3UjTNZFe8jCCuqyHAxS2lhM103xzWGjWW5HTTr+HEjN/I84fJuLDW8K/35IxNka CKhzmCGMzhaEXhQsUo8Hee2Jbo/aRWbOz41Sy95edrNhsT+/7N8gDn8nvMqsIrDA22ChHQo5J ipLGW8ic3naNiFipjMmhlhmvVWS6rf4ALQ16wmqVBqMRQMwgEceQ6DfCq+dfeCigGImUh9xc2 NfsNDXv3srxRXRrYwZRz08+CcXt0aBWa2O6HJUZxlgHncYr/cz7DwXY4KpwKBt05LmqfI2QMP dij39q7Rbx9YP0xnBrayHQvjBRkZP1tektA+bdfzSX6A7eNDDrWaYhZEm+rSpBty2cbk+30XN VyqpUYJX2ZR/lHNqSvXqlSDYTOB95EWh2aZR0kbYlR3VF1ELa+J3u/HXH8xSFBr7N5gd5SFco xPEHp5hOi9qNT3/JHSl2m8ov15mrqS/6hPrKKp5UBqxAR/9QRHkoI9AXz39xKS7g3+NyjbxH+ l7YmQwSftiScOWQ+dqjL6TDCFf+HQP8wtWp X-Archives-Salt: 060ff7ca-895a-4d01-99ae-4599e726f4b1 X-Archives-Hash: 130301792a54e4e311ab0942ae9868a9 --gLHfYsxbzlgzuU+/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 06:10:19PM -0500 schrieb Dale: > That's interesting.=C2=A0 I have two different drives, can't recall but m= ay > be the same brand. The actual drive in my enclusure is a Seagate, BTW. > I've tried external drives connected by USB before and hated them.=C2=A0 = Slow > when they do work and buggy at that. Theoretically, HDDs are not able to saturate USB 3. And from my observation, I do get their maximum performance =E2=80=93 my 2.5=E2=80=B3 1 TB WD delive= rs about 80-90 MB/s read speed and said Intenso/Seagate 3.5=E2=80=B3 gives me up to around 140 = MB/s tops. I used dstat to gather those numbers. > I've had more drives go bad when using USB enclosures than I've ever had > on IDE or (e)SATA. Interesting, I can=E2=80=99t really confirm such a correlation from the dri= ves I have lying around. And I don=E2=80=99t see how USB can cause damage to a dr= ive. Except for physical impacts owing to the fact that USB drives are easily moved around. > I've had two drives fail after years of service that were IDE or SATA.=C2= =A0 I > have three drives that are bricks and all of them were in USB enclosures > and far young to die. Perhaps they became too hot during operation. Enclosures don=E2=80=99t usua= lly account for thermals. Didn=E2=80=99t you mention you lived in a hot area? > I paid more for eSATA external enclosures and have had no > problems with drives going dead yet.=C2=A0 All of them have far surpassed= the > drives in the USB enclosures. Hm... bad (in the sense of cheap) USB controllers on the mobo or the enclosures? Or bad USB cables? What kind of HDD death are we talking about? Certainly not bad sectors, right? > Bad thing is, I don't use anything Microsoft here.=C2=A0 Can a drive's > firmware be updated on Linux? Well, that seagate update ISO didn=E2=80=99t work with USB and I think all = my CDRW are now serving as saucers for cups. So I downloaded the EXE and ran it on my gaming Windows. It actually set up a temporary boot of a tiny linux which tried the firmware update. Infortunately it didn=E2=80=99t detect the drive= and the text went by too fast. Might give it another try some other time. > I think my drives are either Seagate or WD.=C2=A0 I tend to stick with th= ose > two, unless it is a really awesome deal. Yea. First the SMR fiasco became public and then there was some other PR stunt they did that I can=E2=80=99t remember right now, and I said =E2=80= =9CI can=E2=80=99t buy WD anymore=E2=80=9D. But there is no real alternative these days. And CMR driv= es are becoming ever rarer, especially in the 2.5=E2=80=B3 realm. Except for one s= ingle seagate model, there isn=E2=80=99t even a bare SATA drive above 2 TB availa= ble on the market! Everything above that size is external USB stuff. And those disks don=E2=80=99t come with standard SATA connectors anymore, but have th= e USB socket soldered onto their PCB. > I've never updated the firmware on a drive before. Me neither. I think I updated an SSD once. --=20 Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe | Greetings | Qapla=E2=80=99 Please do not share anything from, with or about me on any social network. Similar regulations in different post departments are TELECOMpatible. --gLHfYsxbzlgzuU+/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEEVbE9o2D2lE5fhoVsizG+tUDUMMoFAmD/In8ACgkQizG+tUDU MMojVQ/8CkzNBglvLXFzi2PwBSNxFNp5UGUE8SXC7DQf/WQ2tCmLZDiOwOZEZvDx q9fRlYaLcngpMXLUP7ntWigA+D7RBn3mv/FaenIcG4euh0t2jKNbcbMLiv6cz0jb S43P6iWmz4eP6rKrth9e8DiY3woO2lJa75tEIpK1giBPuLuuLQC3eviCq06EoDAn JBbMB5yqGtSH5mliiSNM46xS5fppLUwe5C4vt4D6liUa87LyJ8wCd9m74p6CrvL6 ICnBYpkinrcjpp7vGjzPlGv85ZfiouhfglMgY8q5fP6is555ocnFBuip0FSIh/a7 jr6IY4JuZHCKVP6zwFMu9VrLsIlTsVyRsvxCYNbaxYRg9uax23/3cUmJNpQ9fknQ WZKvv7OFBfjd0OcSYhAniiTrsyjJEQJ+dvvSoR/Fc7OdQ/hv12y2j+j3m6HCWyAx F0PVvhlMDokT4CZEfrh6CDoSRzW6VOQ9yodmE5FkJ0NR1QnSidLJeQBn7gQR1zqx lzL52Qd7OL+zlFfWWoRpjXIQymfIBuWP5+NsMHonS6GlYVu+VdUV/E+H3ISliE7V Ol5IzTvr1iy4I0f5f5P1bhDNiHD0cVuxfwN0ZdzU/VN7M4afw6IQtlK73L75I9Oh CmiMUeyPsi+RG4yERB+OENKaXVL5Xp7xbj9fymWgq5GmekJUqPg= =0HTq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gLHfYsxbzlgzuU+/--