From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-user+bounces-194868-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2ED2E1382C5 for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Thu, 14 Jan 2021 16:00:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EB4F8E097E; Thu, 14 Jan 2021 16:00:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.muc.de (colin.muc.de [193.149.48.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 50BD5E0972 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 14 Jan 2021 16:00:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 81373 invoked by uid 3782); 14 Jan 2021 16:00:33 -0000 Received: from acm.muc.de (p4fe15b0e.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [79.225.91.14]) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Thu, 14 Jan 2021 17:00:32 +0100 Received: (qmail 15005 invoked by uid 1000); 14 Jan 2021 16:00:32 -0000 Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 16:00:32 +0000 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Console scrollback Message-ID: <YABqoLjGyiEukfBP@ACM> References: <2189375.ElGaqSPkdT@peak> <X/84j2kqNylahvcE@ACM> <20210113184415.01b2b987@digimed.co.uk> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20210113184415.01b2b987@digimed.co.uk> X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-Archives-Salt: 02364cd5-cba2-4462-8be2-1ba721dc5eca X-Archives-Hash: 500d5501606a6d15cbeada1ceaf96cd4 Hello, Neil. On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 18:44:15 +0000, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 18:14:39 +0000, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > > I see that the kernel code to scroll the console has been stripped out > > > [1]. > > This is appalling. I do all my work on the console (apart from web > > browsing), and with this development, Linux effectively becomes unusable > > to me. I will NOT be bullied into using second rate alternatives like > > X-Windows terminals. > What about screen/tmux? I suppose they'd do at a pinch, but they're both things which get between Linux and my applications, and like X-Windows, they offer "features" which I don't need and don't want, and hijack key sequences. But I will look into it if I have to. For the moment, I can get by by not updating my kernel. > -- > Neil Bothwick > WinErr 00D: Window closed - Do not look outside -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).