From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4142C158020 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2022 04:47:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 86D0EE0858; Sat, 17 Dec 2022 04:47:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C988CE07E6 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2022 04:47:30 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.de; s=s31663417; t=1671252444; bh=VTT4CK8kifUEU0i2Q8+jIJDlgDQAZ5Nj8cWiSbs4PCY=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=iuTg4a/xOWKPji70Up8V0J/OAHfs0Q3fcNFmeodBl0H/VfSqBntp6dXXhfGbElmHQ khkuCTCMWmIoj5EhJVwQxJMxB/YG9QE/LZ9KMz3J7Jo08LrxyLhPk2lPCqNzmzPejZ +5HrtAASkvdksAhuqz9HOMNAbpUFGiguwapzKptjv9nLINFxwGpbSRGclTdwpSv3R4 4/TDtGPJllVF2bvHIe50YUbB0y593azGtsivXT/5uSUfs8XU/IoUfpeq3izKTA4tDr 8IllvQ+2U67OgGgHKH2f6RvwnsRBLP2Y0/WEp3Z1fmKizkTcVKhxmuXc4AeyyJIZId irFyph2U1v7kw== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Received: from tp ([92.117.59.23]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx105 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MQv8x-1pIjQC3ZOJ-00O12l for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2022 05:47:23 +0100 Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2022 05:47:21 +0100 From: Frank Steinmetzger To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <9407e524-2226-6ba9-dd7f-bac635d083e3@gmail.com> <10b30d8a-5c5d-a80a-e659-b5624e2848e4@gmail.com> <78c2c83f-fdd8-5c9b-3ac3-7c22bc4b5d64@gmail.com> <0a10c428-94f1-6112-4d88-c97143f9564d@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Ys9HfcakeJRALOP/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0a10c428-94f1-6112-4d88-c97143f9564d@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt 2.2.9; VIM - Vi IMproved 9.0 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:2+YgaOU2bXE5+GwRAceHgOWrRpNiy761e7bKzyas2g7wdGTCD19 l7dp6B+4LggbswDDzwfFF955ma6mdE4dej9i9Qw1XIHi3iiMuL/4/5dqBeYZiSojo4klkEu FOTKPwhz3UJKSXxNelOCAKk0hpqPbKawmsTpp6WlPd4KoVQBfpX4VD7RGaI+N26yFc3kQ+W ZU8aU3dy+/qGrbWONj0EQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:q1dMcVFLrVc=;sjIyoRsSWZ4Wwx2ut2Q74rZlCrU Sdpte4QQFhApOaK0MHV938hkeBilIxCkveXvXoyiIDw2FGr4w/Toax7EPkzvVkKRDrzOdtZd1 QwAZJn7uWvrGcLug8fg8o/Grb/bnF1LsMkrvDIN1nwCprBOESr6FAsWyF9n//uw+5ENXrV+qD YL6b87vsy9wMAGZoohwI9n5qTa1LmMzR2CpqdRsWi7Up9q7SQiRJfcOJLtAyNfMhGtSzKTna8 XH1SwHNHesqYmjqShPfIDKTAatLZ1yRAjp2jl1QXTdSBjgODKjlaLKjFq81X/9VNdJf8d7QXq kJPZzyAgxlEuCU+9I/+trdkWBJuU3rNDb9Fe6k3XyTA49meNrMmLOq8w3qjqS371Z4t3kFpyq NwDiCMuszLENtIn946/s7FPo2+zFywurgbZksBkyWRPq3rikZoEKwtnB91LmW8WiyRmOxkTPX NF8efK1xMAI2Sn4IPdAvRRSkhSfzKZLfUoye/8Jahaw9Nmx4kkb9MEiNc2XZUrsscf9QVrzZk fPGdHK6R30y/93TZftwLpIvqQuo7NVqNNz+ENfKS1ErmD/jUVXmMEyw3YX2IZynKdf37jD0dY R6lsRXl3pxZ0+s71tGsVDvbaKqIEFW2iHgGNm6kt8VblPMcCMyzM7Hkazc2SCWzarGmTB+uzt +5x41MbNxaLvYjyJCzRsvfprj+7gJ+jIwHQRyHD0nuebUqdVDZaMSsMt+V9N+d1CZ2q/w9sbF tZH/91ZI1WKh7HgU/T3Cn5Upoi0w0fFGymStsejJDspieOEAMerhhlhWQI8BVsG0BY3xmtw+l 1Cus3LWwvOTN7uUiJC/7nblLyZFsDiDgNgpEoH1oupfY8yMQh7fwPIentYb3CQ3ZRj7a2aKxK csmCbm1mXS9f314Y9iuhjN0B+//nwp8CbhctAVQDV0+Q9HlT9n2GCuzsBAaPB5Y0tiULMMEtA LUEVbA== X-Archives-Salt: 1a375c5d-4425-4271-969b-ee2f28f5f932 X-Archives-Hash: 4aa283fa44301420a5389a250c6b7399 --Ys9HfcakeJRALOP/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 09:50:01PM -0600 schrieb Dale: > > My point is: there is no need for a monitor. ;-) > > >=20 > I noticing that now.=C2=A0 Once the install is done and you have the IP > address, heck, you don't need a monitor for much of anything it > appears.=C2=A0 I even found a console so one can type in things to do.=C2= =A0 I > wonder, could one install the LVM stuff and use that?=C2=A0 That would be > interesting. > > I wonder if there is a NAS software that uses LVM instead.=C2=A0 Interest= ing > thought.=C2=A0 I just may go bug google on that one.=C2=A0 o_O Interestingly, after feeding LVM NAS to my search engine, one of the first results was a Qnap user forum thread which reads that Qnaps use LVM. It makes sense, since they most likely use a =E2=80=9Cnormal=E2=80=9D linux so= ftware RAID underneath, and LVM is then the best way to dynamically manage the space on top of that. While ZFS has the same pooling feature as LVM, meaning you can bunch several disks together to create a JBOD, it has one big disadvantage over LVM: you can grow a pool, but not shrink it. Actually, while reading up on stuff for this thread, I learned that these days it is actually possible to remove a mirror vdev from a mirror-only pool (a mirror can technically also be a single device). But according to https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/solaris/ZFSWhyNoVdevRemoval it=E2=80=99s not perfect either. --=20 Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe | Greetings | Salut | Qapla=E2=80=99 Please do not share anything from, with or about me on any social network. 5 of 4 people have problems with subsets. --Ys9HfcakeJRALOP/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEEVbE9o2D2lE5fhoVsizG+tUDUMMoFAmOdSdgACgkQizG+tUDU MMqKUhAAySRHYzsxBFvkKLe8em8D17MqvwBd6rdJbswDmd/0ztXp6t/ONHVOPu8g 2NJvC3iRMOHOPZuqXAtb4vgnIrRelcmtuRkTpMq2062QiHDXfr6Zsrc14DrDHfDZ s9jPc4NbOyaf2Ytw/edsUyTy5xnVGAS1ZRlIqebI/7cB6MW5BP3BUpbxexArW2lC EieYbX767vX0il3jR7S5kJenZhUkdir+96CCgMWNDEmFcMHRdebT5dmo8g4o6mbQ hsqJKhWQlNBjT2IkAXLnNxx27k8yM0awz114O0cIxlk/X181nsyVl6QnA2ACoofu wfBCIWYHx9YNZ9xZCYApSbkKBE/LOestQVnQgGTpo0y/r81P1w2lcFnvl6xfP++Y NsVrVn1Y/fNzEIIWPc1jQ4Qg2ndvmIhItPRg5DvSk6Ee5dOIRG/ejySZy2eaZSGA GSteTK0ItUs6gPQjRYrNsKtyrEfcoXaF3DRb55sxYZgnS+t776VtlQCb7Zf5NItu 55GfudKWR695U/sRWm8gREXkRRGYQl6p83ncr9DYD1vrmS6sGqAyLfeTk5VAsSYS AQwHRrFIwKiMwfbtvgIoe9lx39LmCfb6ZrqIP4h5hX053p7S22hKBGqoGPbD+DKy TmBQ0Lym3/0bvNAGrWWDjJW8HM65YIQjeE2vl7ISfj0dDFix20M= =KzrK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Ys9HfcakeJRALOP/--