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* [gentoo-user] OT: DVI-D / HDMI / VGA adaptors
@ 2020-12-14 18:55 Walter Dnes
  2020-12-14 19:33 ` Neil Bothwick
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From: Walter Dnes @ 2020-12-14 18:55 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: Gentoo Users List

  I ordered a Dell XPS 8940 which arrived in October, but life got in
the way, and I'm only now getting around to setting it up.  First thing
I noticed today is that Dell "had the courage to remove the VGA port"
<G>.  It has HDMI and Displayport.  I've got two monitors for my PCs.
My main one has VGA/DVI/HDMI/Displayport inputs.

  But I want to attach the XPS 8940 to the older monitor, which only has
VGA and DVI-D.  I use the older monitor for setup/install and to keep
the "hot backup" machine up-to-date.  What are my options?  For the main
machine I'll buy an HDMI cable.  Are there adapters that'll push HDMI
computer output into a monitor VGA or DVI-D input?  That way I can buy
an HDMI cable plus an adaptor, rather than a new monitor. <G>

-- 
Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org>
I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications


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* Re: [gentoo-user] OT: DVI-D / HDMI / VGA adaptors
  2020-12-14 18:55 [gentoo-user] OT: DVI-D / HDMI / VGA adaptors Walter Dnes
@ 2020-12-14 19:33 ` Neil Bothwick
  2020-12-14 19:57 ` J. Roeleveld
                   ` (4 subsequent siblings)
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From: Neil Bothwick @ 2020-12-14 19:33 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 13:55:42 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote:

>   I ordered a Dell XPS 8940 which arrived in October, but life got in
> the way, and I'm only now getting around to setting it up.  First thing
> I noticed today is that Dell "had the courage to remove the VGA port"
> <G>.  It has HDMI and Displayport.  I've got two monitors for my PCs.
> My main one has VGA/DVI/HDMI/Displayport inputs.

My five year old Dell laptop only has mni-displayport. It's not a new
decision.

>   But I want to attach the XPS 8940 to the older monitor, which only has
> VGA and DVI-D.  I use the older monitor for setup/install and to keep
> the "hot backup" machine up-to-date.  What are my options?  For the main
> machine I'll buy an HDMI cable.  Are there adapters that'll push HDMI
> computer output into a monitor VGA or DVI-D input?  That way I can buy
> an HDMI cable plus an adaptor, rather than a new monitor. <G>

You can buy various adaptors from Amazon. I have one with
mini-displayport input and multiple outputs - VGS, DVI and HDMI.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

... if (pot.coffee == EMPTY) { programmer->brain = OFF };

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* Re: [gentoo-user] OT: DVI-D / HDMI / VGA adaptors
  2020-12-14 18:55 [gentoo-user] OT: DVI-D / HDMI / VGA adaptors Walter Dnes
  2020-12-14 19:33 ` Neil Bothwick
@ 2020-12-14 19:57 ` J. Roeleveld
  2020-12-14 21:53 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
                   ` (3 subsequent siblings)
  5 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: J. Roeleveld @ 2020-12-14 19:57 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On 14 December 2020 19:55:42 CET, Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org> wrote:
>  I ordered a Dell XPS 8940 which arrived in October, but life got in
>the way, and I'm only now getting around to setting it up.  First thing
>I noticed today is that Dell "had the courage to remove the VGA port"
><G>.  It has HDMI and Displayport.  I've got two monitors for my PCs.
>My main one has VGA/DVI/HDMI/Displayport inputs.
>
> But I want to attach the XPS 8940 to the older monitor, which only has
>VGA and DVI-D.  I use the older monitor for setup/install and to keep
>the "hot backup" machine up-to-date.  What are my options?  For the
>main
>machine I'll buy an HDMI cable.  Are there adapters that'll push HDMI
>computer output into a monitor VGA or DVI-D input?  That way I can buy
>an HDMI cable plus an adaptor, rather than a new monitor. <G>

Yes, I use one from Startech without any issues. Comes with HDMI, DVI and VGA output for a mini DP port.

I use it as well to connect the laptop to my tv.

--
Joost
-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.


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* [gentoo-user] Re: OT: DVI-D / HDMI / VGA adaptors
  2020-12-14 18:55 [gentoo-user] OT: DVI-D / HDMI / VGA adaptors Walter Dnes
  2020-12-14 19:33 ` Neil Bothwick
  2020-12-14 19:57 ` J. Roeleveld
@ 2020-12-14 21:53 ` Grant Edwards
  2020-12-14 23:46 ` [gentoo-user] " antlists
                   ` (2 subsequent siblings)
  5 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Grant Edwards @ 2020-12-14 21:53 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On 2020-12-14, Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org> wrote:

>   But I want to attach the XPS 8940 to the older monitor, which only has
> VGA and DVI-D.  I use the older monitor for setup/install and to keep
> the "hot backup" machine up-to-date.  What are my options?  For the main
> machine I'll buy an HDMI cable.  Are there adapters that'll push HDMI
> computer output into a monitor VGA or DVI-D input?

In my experience, HDMI->DVI-D is pretty much foolproof.

I'd probably go with a cable like this:

  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014I8UQJY/

or, if you want to introduce an extra failure point, you can stick an
adapter like below on the monitor and use a standard HDMI cable

  https://www.amazon.com/Rankie-Adapter-2-Pack-Gold-Plated-Converter/

I've done both of the above multiple times with 100% success.

OTOH, I've had spotty luck with display-port -> DVI adapters. The ones
I have work OK with an NVidia video card's DP outputs, but not with
the DP output on my Intel i5 motherboard.

--
Grant






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* Re: [gentoo-user] OT: DVI-D / HDMI / VGA adaptors
  2020-12-14 18:55 [gentoo-user] OT: DVI-D / HDMI / VGA adaptors Walter Dnes
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2020-12-14 21:53 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
@ 2020-12-14 23:46 ` antlists
  2020-12-15  1:15 ` Daniel Frey
  2020-12-18  2:41 ` Walter Dnes
  5 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: antlists @ 2020-12-14 23:46 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On 14/12/2020 18:55, Walter Dnes wrote:
>    But I want to attach the XPS 8940 to the older monitor, which only has
> VGA and DVI-D.  I use the older monitor for setup/install and to keep
> the "hot backup" machine up-to-date.  What are my options?  For the main
> machine I'll buy an HDMI cable.  Are there adapters that'll push HDMI
> computer output into a monitor VGA or DVI-D input?  That way I can buy
> an HDMI cable plus an adaptor, rather than a new monitor. <G>

I've got an HDMI-to-VGA so I can drive an old projector from a new 
laptop. Works great.

BEWARE - IT'S ONE-WAY.

You need a different adaptor for VGA-to-HDMI, if you want to drive a new 
monitor from an old PC.

Cheers,
Wol


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* Re: [gentoo-user] OT: DVI-D / HDMI / VGA adaptors
  2020-12-14 18:55 [gentoo-user] OT: DVI-D / HDMI / VGA adaptors Walter Dnes
                   ` (3 preceding siblings ...)
  2020-12-14 23:46 ` [gentoo-user] " antlists
@ 2020-12-15  1:15 ` Daniel Frey
  2020-12-18  2:41 ` Walter Dnes
  5 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Frey @ 2020-12-15  1:15 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On 12/14/20 10:55 AM, Walter Dnes wrote:
>    I ordered a Dell XPS 8940 which arrived in October, but life got in
> the way, and I'm only now getting around to setting it up.  First thing
> I noticed today is that Dell "had the courage to remove the VGA port"
> <G>.  It has HDMI and Displayport.  I've got two monitors for my PCs.
> My main one has VGA/DVI/HDMI/Displayport inputs.
> 
>    But I want to attach the XPS 8940 to the older monitor, which only has
> VGA and DVI-D.  I use the older monitor for setup/install and to keep
> the "hot backup" machine up-to-date.  What are my options?  For the main
> machine I'll buy an HDMI cable.  Are there adapters that'll push HDMI
> computer output into a monitor VGA or DVI-D input?  That way I can buy
> an HDMI cable plus an adaptor, rather than a new monitor. <G>
> 

If your old monitor has DVI-D there's a plethora of HDMI to DVI-D cords 
out there. We use a lot of them where I work.

Dan


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* Re: [gentoo-user] OT: DVI-D / HDMI / VGA adaptors
  2020-12-14 18:55 [gentoo-user] OT: DVI-D / HDMI / VGA adaptors Walter Dnes
                   ` (4 preceding siblings ...)
  2020-12-15  1:15 ` Daniel Frey
@ 2020-12-18  2:41 ` Walter Dnes
  2020-12-18  3:57   ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
  5 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Walter Dnes @ 2020-12-18  2:41 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 01:55:42PM -0500, Walter Dnes wrote

  Thanks for everybody's comments.  I didn't feel like waiting till the
6th or 10th of Januaty for Amazon shipping.  I've got 2 HDMI cables
locally, but no HDMI-to-VGA dongle.  Hopefully, I'll find a store with
that in stock tomorrow.  In the meantime, I've lugged the new machine to
my computer den, and I'm switching the input on my main monitor's
selector menu.  I've already done the first boot up.  The board will get
bombarded with setup questions soon.

-- 
Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org>
I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications


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* [gentoo-user] Re: OT: DVI-D / HDMI / VGA adaptors
  2020-12-18  2:41 ` Walter Dnes
@ 2020-12-18  3:57   ` Grant Edwards
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Grant Edwards @ 2020-12-18  3:57 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On 2020-12-18, Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org> wrote:

> Thanks for everybody's comments.  I didn't feel like waiting till the
> 6th or 10th of Januaty for Amazon shipping.  I've got 2 HDMI cables
> locally, but no HDMI-to-VGA dongle.

Do HDMI->DVI-D if you have a choice. It purely a connector shape
difference. There's no electrnics involved, and it always "just
works". HDMI->VGA involves a lot of electronics and my experience with
them is not great.

--
Grant




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