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Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <8074cb40-2345-4a25-0e17-8034c0159c5c@gmail.com> <99f61f01-e86f-a3b5-6349-f146cba40a3b@iinet.net.au> <306bd6ab-1526-4cb8-dd88-edeca832d717@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="67gtvB0irRINGzxJ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <306bd6ab-1526-4cb8-dd88-edeca832d717@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt 2.0.3; VIM - Vi IMproved 8.2 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:vjzcvTa1oYgaHyX9M9efBEgSyBSTnty5nMJhP+2VevkWlpohx/N UH6/62gR8Fjl2uWmpY9rMiF4UDA9vnqKKCG6ZUYKWTVL1b/CyvCvQRRNGYEXn/5rF93cPFP ueQ/QAavH4Fo5bBSsf20z0M4ELnKoUoHgzwE9mpl+FKt4zJzkTDnRFPJyeRBUhN+/0rc3Iw 8sdtKnLKZn4fVzm1nuUZQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:GLOEZCOmy3Q=:tdaLuWDa3mUp0kGYEQYSkM 7mmSobCpmcRP3BUE7Onlw7Yn3OzFHN7RlgvkYQ/cJT6PKfuM/iKnCUCFVcsfC4dy2cb5rkpdD 3y6Wo9HoZxCz3sfGtWaAIzlpMivjBlCdFvcXdYap6vnrG9l49bjArJPfxgnMONR6RvKgGZQSM 9+5VVpaEN5xK7nLHbxHdscZHrN5ovt2YuOqZrconjZKlrV5VKg+/j5J4f1TSsM1qwNY5jDuvQ bLjM7kjjerS9N1HppCtN9+Dj02RHm9vxeH548IB7BCq5eWIXUXnR3yPnwy8GZscZuNMe35zA/ 30mgC9E/IllpVuR3PhT2u9c6eUNROmOykyBIMit4blRilUBav8GbvwDbjWIQN+5VS+GfAVFxQ HqaTrpXUghNTOkxCZ9k/SH2gkeQKH4Z1DzESkf+WAHCinES9UpB5fX62bWITQP+A/ObpRDw/t +saNKRY7x8l/gvgQNXEiBobeuID/rbkBl2LLQOItCbWAXNSlEjwagI+feRa5CGv25S80caGU+ 3YnszOG5hGhXjxZBEPQxGPrjbUlCCtCrtDJYV4iWqmaYhsn/KQlUPb+emaMg0pg3I4xeD6BkE f8kBRfL57XV4N9Lm2LJzGxP5QOfAfte1u6v740fAPBVrLzo7taTmmkOglA6JWyMfS9Jk+OkcQ lTNblB48AAGpOiz7R6gkwJc64EQHqP4L5QaoGzTUAdqbnPgn2+nUe7ObQF8MOVac1Jsriz4Kp CNX+JBlyhOnKb2v+gOaZA9rTHHfMReKmZ3IEgD6FnR89RFAVhtFkkBjz14Yr0niSfd+R+1sip uw7rflTk9e8rVfbEHJL6S65aVTNJSHxe94K7iOHpMa8nvB4gPM18x9swfbaRMqexQnMi4Ntll Lids4aLFH5YTIpVAZFtA== X-Archives-Salt: fd658a6f-5fc0-4e8c-ad5e-0ca5549f4d8c X-Archives-Hash: f69c5b9df98a9fb95370123283c902de --67gtvB0irRINGzxJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 03:19:08AM -0600 schrieb Dale: > > Something to look into before going the traditional raid/nfs route: > > moosefs or lizardfs.=C2=A0 I am using arm based odroid HC2's and over t= he > > softraid based nfs I was using there are considerable power savings > > (especially if you take into the account redundancy) as it takes a > > number of these low power arm systems to match the power requirements of > > an older desktop), better data protection (actual, not theoretical for > > 2x raid 4 disk 10's replaced by a single 5x hc2's using the same disks > > with mfs :) and the ease of mounting it into the filesystem.=C2=A0 Down= side > > is needing a fast network for best performance but an NFS will need that > > anyway for similar reasons. > > > > BillK >=20 >=20 > I was reading somewhere about FreeNAS OS that is commonly used on a NAS > and it uses ZFS.=C2=A0 It sounded a lot like a LVM or BTRFS, (sp?), type = file > system. ZFS combines LVM/RAID and the filesystem into one software. So you don't need to set up two separate layers (RAID and filesystem). > I can't find ZFS in the kernel so it seems it is only used with > that OS/software. IIRC, ZFS uses a licence that is not compatible with the kernel's. That's why ZFS on Linux (ZoL) cannot be integrated into the kernel. Instead, you build an external kernel module (available in portage), which isn't always compatible to the newest kernel out there. > I'm not sure if it uses anything else for file systems either.=C2=A0 Whil= e I > have seen moosefs and lizardfs mentioned on this list, I have no idea how > it works or anything.=C2=A0 If I use FreeNAS, I may not have many options. FreeNAS is openbsd based. It uses the BSD-variant of ZFS natively. > At this point, I don't know if I will use Gentoo or something that is > made just for NAS setups or even something else that is binary based > like Arch, some *buntu or something.=C2=A0 The downside of Gentoo, I may = not > update very often.=C2=A0 We know how Gentoo is when going months or more > without updating.=C2=A0 I have kinda picked a case so far.=C2=A0 The rest= is still > being thought about.=C2=A0 Yeah, a pure server should be left alone unless something is broken. My NAS sits in the corner, unused and switched off for many weeks in a row. So when I do switch it on, I usually do an eix-sync right away. > I also wouldn't mind having a media center type box as well.=C2=A0 I thou= ght > about buying some sort of used game station type box for a media box.=C2= =A0 I was flirting with the idea as well. But since I don't have a TV or any good living room speakers at the mo, I just won't have any real use for it right now. My favourite candidate is a ZBox Nano CI329. It is passively cooled and looks nice. It has two ethernet ports, which makes it ideal as a network server and firewall, HDMI for the TV, a 2,5=E2=80=B3 internal bay a= nd a hidden mSata slot under the mainboard (to reach it you have to break the warranty seal, b/c the ZBox can be bought as a barebone or as a Windows box, which has its bloatware preinstalled on a small mSata SSD). Its power consumption is very low, rivalling that of a Raspberry. Sadly, they ditched the infrared port which previous generations had. Because they are ideal media players for the living room. --=20 Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe | Greetings | Qapla=E2=80=99 Please do not share anything from, with or about me on any social network. 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