[gentoo-user] really weird way to install

[gentoo-user] really weird way to install

[Ghaith Hachem]

hello
i was trying to reinstall gentoo after i changed harddrives but i have
a little time problem i cant' keep my system unusable for more then an
hour i have windows XP and i have write support to my ext3 partitions
is there a way i can use cygwin to install the sytem? it's probably
impossible but i just want to make sure.

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Re: [gentoo-user] really weird way to install

[Ryan Viljoen]

> i was trying to reinstall gentoo after i changed harddrives but i have
> a little time problem i cant' keep my system unusable for more then an
> hour i have windows XP and i have write support to my ext3 partitions
> is there a way i can use cygwin to install the sytem? it's probably
> impossible but i just want to make sure.

If you can mount the ext3 partition in cygwin and you can use wget
then I dont see why you can't do so, setup the basic system and then
see if you can chroot it. I havent used cygwin extensively though.

Lets us know how it progresses. I would be quite interested.

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Re: [gentoo-user] really weird way to install

[Iain Buchanan]

On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 10:38 +0200, Ghaith Hachem wrote:
> hello
> i was trying to reinstall gentoo after i changed harddrives but i have
> a little time problem i cant' keep my system unusable for more then an
> hour i have windows XP and i have write support to my ext3 partitions
> is there a way i can use cygwin to install the sytem? it's probably
> impossible but i just want to make sure.

you can't chroot to the new install from your existing gentoo install?
(That's what I did) then swap out the HD when you're done...
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Re: [gentoo-user] really weird way to install

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 20:20:47 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:

> you can't chroot to the new install from your existing gentoo install?
> (That's what I did) then swap out the HD when you're done...

For that matter, why not use partimage/rsync/tar to copy your existing
installation for the old drive to the new?

Reinstalling is soooo Windows.


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Re: [gentoo-user] really weird way to install

[Ghaith Hachem]

i was using a delivery service to get my harddrive (replace it in my
case) the first had some problems and the delivery guy wouldn't wait
for me so i had no chance to even make a full back up i lost a lot of
data in the process including my gentoo and some homeworks

On 2/7/06, Iain Buchanan <iaindb@netspace.net.au> wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 10:38 +0200, Ghaith Hachem wrote:
> > hello
> > i was trying to reinstall gentoo after i changed harddrives but i have
> > a little time problem i cant' keep my system unusable for more then an
> > hour i have windows XP and i have write support to my ext3 partitions
> > is there a way i can use cygwin to install the sytem? it's probably
> > impossible but i just want to make sure.
>
> you can't chroot to the new install from your existing gentoo install?
> (That's what I did) then swap out the HD when you're done...
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> Iain Buchanan <iain at netspace dot net dot au>
>
> Forecast, n.:
>         A prediction of the future, based on the past, for
>         which the forecaster demands payment in the present.
>
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>


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Re: [gentoo-user] really weird way to install

[Ghaith Hachem]

On 2/7/06, Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
> On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 20:20:47 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:
>
> > you can't chroot to the new install from your existing gentoo install?
> > (That's what I did) then swap out the HD when you're done...
>
> For that matter, why not use partimage/rsync/tar to copy your existing
> installation for the old drive to the new?

again the backup problem the backup i made were on one 40GB harddrive
and another 20GB i had almost 100GB on the damaged one i couldn't do
anything about it

> Reinstalling is soooo Windows.
>
that is the only option left
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>
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Re: [gentoo-user] really weird way to install

[Ghaith Hachem]

On 2/7/06, Ryan Viljoen <ravilj@gmail.com> wrote:


> If you can mount the ext3 partition in cygwin and you can use wget
> then I dont see why you can't do so, setup the basic system and then
> see if you can chroot it. I havent used cygwin extensively though.

stuck on the chroot with a /bin/bash command not found in cygwin i
hope i can find a solution soon

> Lets us know how it progresses. I would be quite interested.

> Ryan Viljoen Bsc(Eng) (Electrical)
>
> "The significant problems we have cannot be solved at the same level
> of thinking with which we created them."
>   - Albert Einstein
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] really weird way to install

[Richard Fish]

On 2/7/06, Ghaith Hachem <blacksadness@gmail.com> wrote:
> stuck on the chroot with a /bin/bash command not found in cygwin i
> hope i can find a solution soon

Probably no solution to be found.  The bash in the chroot environment
is going to be dynamically linked against a glibc that expects a linux
kernel.  You could copy the bash and libs and python and so forth from
cygwin to your chroot, but then I'm not sure how you get from there to
booting your system.y

I think your best bet is a stage 3 with a binary packages CD.  It
might not get you installed inside an hour, but is definitely the
fastest way to get up and running.

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] really weird way to install

[Steven S.]

On Tue, 7 Feb 2006, Ghaith Hachem wrote:

> hello
> i was trying to reinstall gentoo after i changed harddrives but i have
> a little time problem i cant' keep my system unusable for more then an
> hour i have windows XP and i have write support to my ext3 partitions
> is there a way i can use cygwin to install the sytem? it's probably
> impossible but i just want to make sure.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Ghaith
>
>

You can't complete the install through cygwin. You can complete the 
install through VMware though. Get the 30 day trial, create a new virtual 
machine, give it access to the raw disk partition (or whatever it says 
when you're creating it). I have used that method to install Debian over 
dial up in the past, you just need to compile the kernel and setup things 
like fstab to point to how it should be, now how it is off of vmware.

I would give it access to the entire disk rather than just the linux 
partition, as you can then install grub.
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Re: [gentoo-user] really weird way to install

[Ghaith Hachem]

well there was a miracle today i got 3 free hours to manage to install
the system up to the bootloader but what i really need is X since this
is the family pc :-P
the vmware idea is nice.. but i don't know about it can i load a hole
drive as my virtual harddrive?
On 2/7/06, Steven S. <stupendoussteve@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Feb 2006, Ghaith Hachem wrote:
>
> > hello
> > i was trying to reinstall gentoo after i changed harddrives but i have
> > a little time problem i cant' keep my system unusable for more then an
> > hour i have windows XP and i have write support to my ext3 partitions
> > is there a way i can use cygwin to install the sytem? it's probably
> > impossible but i just want to make sure.
> >
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> > Cheers,
> > Ghaith
> >
> >
>
> You can't complete the install through cygwin. You can complete the
> install through VMware though. Get the 30 day trial, create a new virtual
> machine, give it access to the raw disk partition (or whatever it says
> when you're creating it). I have used that method to install Debian over
> dial up in the past, you just need to compile the kernel and setup things
> like fstab to point to how it should be, now how it is off of vmware.
>
> I would give it access to the entire disk rather than just the linux
> partition, as you can then install grub.
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>


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Re: [gentoo-user] really weird way to install

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 7 Feb 2006 22:20:19 +0200, Ghaith Hachem wrote:

> well there was a miracle today i got 3 free hours to manage to install
> the system up to the bootloader but what i really need is X since this
> is the family pc :-P

Install X and a desktop from a GRP CD, it will only take a few minutes.


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OT - GRP (WAS: Re: [gentoo-user] really weird way to install)

[Michael Sullivan]

On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 21:42 +0000, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Feb 2006 22:20:19 +0200, Ghaith Hachem wrote:
> 
> > well there was a miracle today i got 3 free hours to manage to install
> > the system up to the bootloader but what i really need is X since this
> > is the family pc :-P
> 
> Install X and a desktop from a GRP CD, it will only take a few minutes.
> 

A couple of years ago I was reading in the Gentoo Handbook about GRP,
and I saw something that I understood to mean that I could not use GRP
packages and custom-built packages on the same system.  Is this true? 


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Re: [gentoo-user] really weird way to install

[Steven S.]

On Tue, 7 Feb 2006, Ghaith Hachem wrote:



> well there was a miracle today i got 3 free hours to manage to install
> the system up to the bootloader but what i really need is X since this
> is the family pc :-P
> the vmware idea is nice.. but i don't know about it can i load a hole
> drive as my virtual harddrive?


Yes, you can select using a physical drive instead of a virtual file.
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Re: OT - GRP (WAS: Re: [gentoo-user] really weird way to install)

[Nick Rout]

On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 16:17:41 -0600
Michael Sullivan wrote:

> On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 21:42 +0000, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > On Tue, 7 Feb 2006 22:20:19 +0200, Ghaith Hachem wrote:
> > 
> > > well there was a miracle today i got 3 free hours to manage to install
> > > the system up to the bootloader but what i really need is X since this
> > > is the family pc :-P
> > 
> > Install X and a desktop from a GRP CD, it will only take a few minutes.
> > 
> 
> A couple of years ago I was reading in the Gentoo Handbook about GRP,
> and I saw something that I understood to mean that I could not use GRP
> packages and custom-built packages on the same system.  Is this true? 

The restrictions are really based on (1) the portage snapshot used when the GRP was made, and (2) your USE flags.

If either change, then the GRP packages are not going to be much use to
you. They are built as at a defined snapshot, so by the following week a
lot of the packages will not match portage's idea of the latest and
greatest. 

If you want to do a GRP, do NOT sync portage or change your USE flags
until you have installed all you want. Then you can do a sync, set up
USE, and compile anything u want updated.

> 
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Re: OT - GRP (WAS: Re: [gentoo-user] really weird way to install)

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 16:17:41 -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote:

> A couple of years ago I was reading in the Gentoo Handbook about GRP,
> and I saw something that I understood to mean that I could not use GRP
> packages and custom-built packages on the same system.  Is this true? 

No. You can use them together. GRP packages are only really a starting
point, any updates will be compile din the normal way. The quickest way
to get Gentoo installed is to do a Stage 3 install, then add anything
else you need from GRP. That should get everything done in an hour or two.

Then you can set your USE and CFLAGS, sync and do emerge -e world to
have everything updated and compiled the way you want it, while you
continue to use the computer.
 

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