From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 86D1B15808B for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2024 13:03:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CE6E8E29BE; Wed, 2 Oct 2024 13:03:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.w14.tutanota.de (mail.w14.tutanota.de [185.205.69.214]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 69489E29B0 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2024 13:03:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from tutadb.w10.tutanota.de (w10.api.tuta.com [IPv6:fd:ac::d:10]) by mail.w14.tutanota.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C83BD2813809 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2024 15:02:58 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1727874178; s=s1; d=tutanota.com; h=From:From:To:To:Subject:Subject:Content-Description:Content-ID:Content-Type:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Date:Date:In-Reply-To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Message-ID:Reply-To:References:References:Sender; bh=8CS8b5DfqK+hatpN5TZW4P846wzXBsmQjjjNWN+Ts+s=; b=EbXY6nJeECSSLJhk4jOzsHp4p+wcmf0xP81IXgSTmBdgDVbBuCoe5ot0qr100h6m XH8854O4kakiqlf3hXE7vft3AGh7BsoXiN5ZaaIhIPbnyv03+RD5CwtPHrwipUoEwy7 mAsU6vzMJNhrIK5bnRhDOM8zSfXPCcPrngioEWaT4H14IWkOSUIRQvlamyL1cD64B8N 8z3PipXgKwST/lNufKkgxMFhtNGxfbr9N3Zt783iGPJWD7Vl+3VZUb4UQXdCmG0d4ct 9sc6P2390MNJqQoK/Jb0gxthqIBwgDJRjE8xBaX7djyZI5ytjGRdLRcXuXEObYI/abv Gdre1U6VbA== Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2024 15:02:58 +0200 (CEST) From: mad.scientist.at.large@tutanota.com To: Gentoo User Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <86d6a4e6-1485-4f07-9069-5008e08b4971@laincorp.tech> References: <6a1bf73e-d7ab-e9ea-20ea-e174190b300c@gmail.com> <86d6a4e6-1485-4f07-9069-5008e08b4971@laincorp.tech> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone here use Proton email service? Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: e6e7efc7-78f7-46f0-a21d-18705424a4d9 X-Archives-Hash: 026755b7fda1bb83ee71fddf8625d385 Proton does keep other people from reading your' email.=C2=A0 I've been sta= lked by google based on my interest/emails after they bought the provider I= was using.=C2=A0=20 But yes, if your' scenario involves any thing the spooks might be intereste= d in, you can bet the spy agencies can crack it, at least the large ones.= =C2=A0 It does provide some security for janky communication, but yeah, for= major felonies it won't help.=C2=A0 But you've probably created a lot of e= vidence in that case anyway.=C2=A0=20 If you're worried about NSA, you really, really don't want to do whatever y= ou thought you wanted to do.=C2=A0 NSA had the first transatlantic phone ca= ble tapped, under water within 24 hours.=C2=A0 When the telcos started usin= g satellites they set up an operation in Australia to intercept it.=C2=A0 I= f you've ever made an international call it's best to assume some one recor= ded or monitored it. --"Fascism begins the moment a ruling class, fearing the people may use the= ir political democracy to gain economic democracy, begins to destroy politi= cal democracy in order to retain its power of exploitation and special priv= ilege." Tommy Douglas Oct 2, 2024, 03:27 by lain@laincorp.tech: > > > > On 10/2/24 11:59, Dale wrote: > >> Howdy,As some know from my posts, I been wanting to switch email provide= rs.=C2=A0 Ifound Proton Mail and notice there is a app available for it in = theGentoo tree.=C2=A0 It appears to have Gentoo support unlike most.=C2=A0 = Doesanyone here use Proton email service?=C2=A0 It may be more secure than = I needbut it sounds like I can use it like as a replacement for Gmail.=C2= =A0 Itsounds like it is encrypted between me and Proton then if needed,decr= ypted from there.=C2=A0 Of course, it seems I can send encrypted email,encr= ypted by Seamonkey and it's encryption, as well.=C2=A0 That would remainenc= rypted until it reaches the person I'm sending to just like it doeswith Gma= il.=C2=A0I'm just curious if anyone here uses it.=C2=A0 Given it is in the = tree, Ifigure someone does.=C2=A0 Trying to see if this is what I need or n= ot.=C2=A0Thanks.Dale:-)=C2=A0 :-)=C2=A0 >> > There's not pretty much difference with something like Gmail. If you want= to do something illegal - your > encrypted> correspondence will suddenly = be decrypted for those who are interested. If you want true security and pr= ivacy - just selfhost your own email inbox. It's worth no more than 1 euro = and one or two hours, maybe more, if you not very tech-savyy. > -- Arthur >