Re: [gentoo-user] How packages becomes stable?

Re: [gentoo-user] How packages becomes stable?

[Richard Fish]

On 7/25/06, Robert Cernansky <hslists2@zoznam.sk> wrote:
> How the developers are informed about packages that should go to
> stable? Is there posibility for developers to easily find these
> packages or get some notification about it?

Developers are generally expected to keep track of the packages they
are maintaining and decide when and if to move them to stable.  It is
possible you are looking at packages that have been orphaned.

Regardless, if there are packages you feel are ready to go to stable,
you can file bugs on bugs.gentoo.org to request stabilization.  Search
the database for "stabilize" to get examples.

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Re[2]: [gentoo-user] How packages becomes stable?

[Robert Cernansky]

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 13:48:17 -0700 Richard Fish <bigfish@asmallpond.org> wrote:

RF> On 7/25/06, Robert Cernansky <hslists2@zoznam.sk> wrote:
RF> > How the developers are informed about packages that should go to
RF> > stable? Is there posibility for developers to easily find these
RF> > packages or get some notification about it?
RF> 
RF> Developers are generally expected to keep track of the packages they
RF> are maintaining and decide when and if to move them to stable.  It is
RF> possible you are looking at packages that have been orphaned.

Is the list of such packages available somewhere?

RF> Regardless, if there are packages you feel are ready to go to stable,
RF> you can file bugs on bugs.gentoo.org to request stabilization.

Of course I can but I want to point out that this should happen
occasionally. I reported several packages to be keyworded for amd64
year ago and none of them is stable yet. So it seems to me that
this is not "bug", this is a "rule".

PS: Richard, how do you read this mailing list? I have suspicion
that my mails do not arriving to mailing list. I see only your
reply, not my original post (this happened also with my previous
mail from 23. 7.).

Robert


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Re: Re[2]: [gentoo-user] How packages becomes stable?

[Richard Fish]

On 7/25/06, Robert Cernansky <hslists2@zoznam.sk> wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 13:48:17 -0700 Richard Fish <bigfish@asmallpond.org> wrote:
> Is the list of such packages available somewhere?

The official and most up-to-date (hopefully) list can be generated with:

find /usr/portage -name metadata.xml | xargs grep -E "maintainer-.*@"

> RF> Regardless, if there are packages you feel are ready to go to stable,
> RF> you can file bugs on bugs.gentoo.org to request stabilization.
>
> Of course I can but I want to point out that this should happen
> occasionally. I reported several packages to be keyworded for amd64
> year ago and none of them is stable yet. So it seems to me that
> this is not "bug", this is a "rule".

Are these packages stable for x86?

> PS: Richard, how do you read this mailing list? I have suspicion
> that my mails do not arriving to mailing list. I see only your
> reply, not my original post (this happened also with my previous
> mail from 23. 7.).

Gmail.  In fact, the problem you describe, I have only ever heard
about happening to gmail users, because gmail doesn't show your own
postings to mail lists until there is a reply.  It basically
recognizes the incoming message as something it already has, so it
isn't 'new'.

However, I have a filter setup to apply a label to all gentoo-user
mail, so I actually do see my own posts show up under that label.

-Richard
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Re[4]: [gentoo-user] How packages becomes stable?

[Robert Cernansky]

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 23:58:23 -0700 Richard Fish <bigfish@asmallpond.org> wrote:

RF> On 7/25/06, Robert Cernansky <hslists2@zoznam.sk> wrote:
RF> > On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 13:48:17 -0700 Richard Fish <bigfish@asmallpond.org> wrote:
RF>
RF> > RF> Regardless, if there are packages you feel are ready to go
RF> > RF> to stable, you can file bugs on bugs.gentoo.org to
RF> > RF> request stabilization.
RF> >
RF> > Of course I can but I want to point out that this should happen
RF> > occasionally. I reported several packages to be keyworded for amd64
RF> > year ago and none of them is stable yet. So it seems to me that
RF> > this is not "bug", this is a "rule".
RF> 
RF> Are these packages stable for x86?

Yes, they are stable for x86. One of it (app-emulation/fuse) have
no maintainer.

Robert


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Re: Re[4]: [gentoo-user] How packages becomes stable?

[Richard Fish]

On 7/26/06, Robert Cernansky <hslists2@zoznam.sk> wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 23:58:23 -0700 Richard Fish <bigfish@asmallpond.org> wrote:
>
> RF> On 7/25/06, Robert Cernansky <hslists2@zoznam.sk> wrote:
> RF> > On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 13:48:17 -0700 Richard Fish <bigfish@asmallpond.org> wrote:
> RF>
> RF> > RF> Regardless, if there are packages you feel are ready to go
> RF> > RF> to stable, you can file bugs on bugs.gentoo.org to
> RF> > RF> request stabilization.
> RF> >
> RF> > Of course I can but I want to point out that this should happen
> RF> > occasionally. I reported several packages to be keyworded for amd64
> RF> > year ago and none of them is stable yet. So it seems to me that
> RF> > this is not "bug", this is a "rule".
> RF>
> RF> Are these packages stable for x86?
>
> Yes, they are stable for x86.

Can you give an example or two?

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Re[6]: [gentoo-user] How packages becomes stable?

[Robert Cernansky]

On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 09:40:23 -0700 Richard Fish <bigfish@asmallpond.org> wrote:

RF> On 7/26/06, Robert Cernansky <hslists2@zoznam.sk> wrote:
RF> > On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 23:58:23 -0700 Richard Fish <bigfish@asmallpond.org> wrote:
RF> >
RF> > RF> On 7/25/06, Robert Cernansky <hslists2@zoznam.sk> wrote:
RF> > RF> > Of course I can but I want to point out that this should
RF> > RF> > happen occasionally. I reported several packages to be
RF> > RF> > keyworded for amd64 year ago and none of them is stable yet. 
RF> > RF> > So it seems to me that this is not "bug", this is a "rule".
RF> > RF>
RF> > RF> Are these packages stable for x86?
RF> >
RF> > Yes, they are stable for x86.
RF> 
RF> Can you give an example or two?

net-im/tkabber
..and its dependencies:
dev-tcltk/tclgpgme
dev-tcltk/tclxml
dev-tcltk/tclxml-expat
dev-tcltk/tkTheme
dev-tcltk/tkXwin

app-text/cwtext
app-text/txt2pdbdoc
net-analyzer/etherape
app-emacs/table
x11-plugins/wmweather+
x11-plugins/docker
app-mobilephone/scmxx

app-emulation/fuse (no maintainer)
app-emulation/libspectrum
x11-plugins/mountapp
app-mobilephone/smssend

Robert


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Re: [gentoo-user] [O/T] How packages becomes stable?

[Mick]

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On Wednesday 26 July 2006 07:58, Richard Fish wrote:
> On 7/25/06, Robert Cernansky <hslists2@zoznam.sk> wrote:

> > PS: Richard, how do you read this mailing list? I have suspicion
> > that my mails do not arriving to mailing list. I see only your
> > reply, not my original post (this happened also with my previous
> > mail from 23. 7.).
>
> Gmail.  In fact, the problem you describe, I have only ever heard
> about happening to gmail users, because gmail doesn't show your own
> postings to mail lists until there is a reply.  It basically
> recognizes the incoming message as something it already has, so it
> isn't 'new'.
>
> However, I have a filter setup to apply a label to all gentoo-user
> mail, so I actually do see my own posts show up under that label.

Messages you send to the list also appear under the Sent Mail 
folder/directory.  As Richard says once there is a reply they also appear in 
the Inbox and in all cases they appear under the filters.  What Gmail is not 
particularly clever is creating threads (conversations in Gmail speak).  It 
interprets the headers differently to a newsreader so messages will appear 
under different conversations when in a conventional newsreader they would 
not.
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Mick

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Re: Re[6]: [gentoo-user] How packages becomes stable?

[Richard Fish]

On 7/26/06, Robert Cernansky <hslists2@zoznam.sk> wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 09:40:23 -0700 Richard Fish <bigfish@asmallpond.org> wrote:
> RF> On 7/26/06, Robert Cernansky <hslists2@zoznam.sk> wrote:
> RF> > On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 23:58:23 -0700 Richard Fish <bigfish@asmallpond.org> wrote:
> RF> > RF> On 7/25/06, Robert Cernansky <hslists2@zoznam.sk> wrote:
> RF> > RF> Are these packages stable for x86?
> RF> >
> RF> > Yes, they are stable for x86.
> RF>
> RF> Can you give an example or two?
>
> net-im/tkabber
> ..and its dependencies:

I've raised the question on -dev in a hopefully constructive manner.
Let's see what happens there.

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/40719/focus=40719

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[gentoo-user] I'm a genkernel user ... Is it OK to manually edit /usr/src/linux/.config with nano?

[Richard Watson]

Hi - I'm a genkernel user ... Is it OK to manually edit
/usr/src/linux/.config with nano? It's quicker than going through
he  --menuconfig menu sets at times. Thanks, Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] I'm a genkernel user ... Is it OK to manually edit /usr/src/linux/.config with nano?

[Mike Williams]

On Sunday 13 August 2006 09:27, Richard Watson wrote:
> Hi - I'm a genkernel user ... Is it OK to manually edit
> /usr/src/linux/.config with nano? It's quicker than going through
> he  --menuconfig menu sets at times. Thanks, Richard

Yes.
Make sure next time you run genkernel on that kernel source you 
specify --no-clean and --no-mrproper, or copy the .config 
to /etc/kernels/kernel-config-version, otherwise it will wipe out your 
changes.

p.s. Don't reply to an old mail just to keep the To:.

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Re: [gentoo-user] I'm a genkernel user ... Is it OK to manually edit /usr/src/linux/.config with nano?

[Richard Watson]

> Yes.
> Make sure next time you run genkernel on that kernel source you 
> specify --no-clean and --no-mrproper, or copy the .config 
> to /etc/kernels/kernel-config-version, otherwise it will wipe out your 
> changes.
> 
> p.s. Don't reply to an old mail just to keep the To:.
>

Thanks Mike
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