From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B7082138334 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2019 06:05:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DB6FCE087D; Fri, 5 Jul 2019 06:05:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from w4.tutanota.de (w4.tutanota.de [81.3.6.165]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 689A1E0830 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2019 06:05:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from w2.tutanota.de (unknown [192.168.1.163]) by w4.tutanota.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53606106041B for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2019 06:05:29 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=tutanota.com; s=20161216; t=1562306729; bh=jpNcT2zCflXGMXTBOdzQewct7vo9LoxO0apruRpc5Jk=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=lb6WjBYf/7WR4bbtMDw78q5lsNTkJ/c8v5g9w6VXcSMtog3vzGy4po8zebTT26FEK GKKM3T9F7ifQIhYSkSh9ij4aMm2mSVWK5aebRdxxHyPdhBPrBViXCQPCDsKdUYBP4N kS/uxrhN4w/7ImDSQdcAg1oKUzGePtzz27/seWtWRy4MTL3RJufeqRLCHLVFLAwkvg JtsJyXA6ru3q+zVleuMhEi5pL89EIbw7oo2LuONdeRP87q8lRVssFyL4YZjIocAMpB w52r8wCy0fzfXR7xBKdt6Oe7G9fHIPDBVn9fquN8eoQOM/GZueB+Yr5U8MEXVihgX7 5qe7zZYui4X2w== Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 08:05:29 +0200 (CEST) From: To: Gentoo User Message-ID: Subject: [gentoo-user] Human configurable boot loader, OR useful grub2 documentation Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 6e7dcd80-60cf-44e6-8e8a-6e3392877983 X-Archives-Hash: acb78b339088be6fd5ef34431ae89026 So, is there either a boot loader that a human can configure manually that = can handle LUKS partitions?=C2=A0 No uefi, but GPT would be nice.=C2=A0 The= grub2 "documentation"=C2=A0 Reads like someone in the later stages of alzh= eimers' trying to tell you how to get to the moon from scratch?=C2=A0 The g= rub "legacy" manual was at least usefull, the grub2 manual is incoherent an= d has no logical structure or explanations in it.=C2=A0 It's insane that a = boot loader takes 60 pages to document without actually explaning itself, b= arely useful as a reference IF you new it anyway. Grub2 produces insanely huge configuration files, stuffed with conditionals= .=C2=A0 It's obvious even the automatic tools don't know how to configure i= t, It can't figure out how to boot redcore, on the same drive though it thi= nks it can.=C2=A0 It thinks you might want to try one version of linux with= the ram disk and kernel from another, which doesn't work very well and WHY= ? any links to sane documentation or=C2=A0 sane bootloaders greatly appreciat= ed, it'll be months before i can work on my own bootloader or extend one th= at makes sense out side of a corporate server farm or randomly assorted des= ktops that have to all work with the same config file (possibly because gru= b2 is deciding how to work every time it loads). Yeah, I hate grub2.=C2=A0 I"m very willing to learn gentoo,=C2=A0 but it do= es make some sense and there are articles that actually explain things onli= ne.=C2=A0 I can't find anything usefull about grub2 other than "DON'T MANUA= LLY EDIT THIS FILE", if it's not human editable and understandable why even= bother to have it in human readable text? "Would you like to see us rule again, my friend?=C2=A0=C2=A0 All you have t= o do is follow the worms."=C2=A0 Pink Floyd, The Wall, Waiting for the worm= s