From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D9563138334 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 03:14:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E37C5E09F5; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 03:14:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from w3.tutanota.de (w3.tutanota.de [81.3.6.164]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 51321E09EB for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 03:14:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from w1.tutanota.de (unknown [192.168.1.162]) by w3.tutanota.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4871570070B for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 03:14:14 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=tutanota.com; s=20161216; t=1532920454; bh=5otrZfLk7Nc2ATm7jedo+MobyDIpulADQ8guCdTVmEU=; h=Date:From:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From; b=D3SAIyYviTthM/nskVv1lUeqK3zmLiMW8AX7aGFaemSCJpa1CaQrkJ5cmfjBncoZv o8ifMV/0RxnVB7bww8S76zUcNf4MVtBUEHE1NRDh/JTnLkleispiT3nCDBLlxEfU81 /4zv3ttt2Dh9MVljhC4XFUsuGK92esdJbWebw5x6RskV9WnlCoJHyCkVHg9enhe0h8 buwXL0QBnDPLyXKz5a1TKd87C7eOQ4wDJD6Y3HJwDqyh94lEtAyg/ptONEtyg063Ap dfkDST9dSY6tDYKyLg6vSi0Q9q4uq1qaN0Drhb8EuLCZ6mvhnhREglDgluCYW1GzcG QiPm+HbThkLAQ== Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 05:14:13 +0200 (CEST) From: To: Gentoo User Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <435d9e58-dc4f-aa5f-78f4-7e1afd74e07f@gmail.com> References: <77851cec-adbe-35c0-4ff7-4855a6fe1441@verizon.net> <<77851cec-adbe-35c0-4ff7-4855a6fe1441@verizon.net>> <20180729223654.74fd3285@phoucgh.digimed.co.uk> <<20180729223654.74fd3285@phoucgh.digimed.co.uk>> <435d9e58-dc4f-aa5f-78f4-7e1afd74e07f@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] =| Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_69772_1894903491.1532920454287" X-Archives-Salt: a4818f8c-d109-4833-8386-521d0b010b0b X-Archives-Hash: ef6e859b4cc994f05972d2070bda06ad ------=_Part_69772_1894903491.1532920454287 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here is the original post, my email provider was kind enough to put it in m= y spam folder.=C2=A0 i've included the address info etc., please forgive my= iffy email provider (iffy for features, otherwise solid). /Begin original post =09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09= =09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09From=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09 = = Alan Grimes > =09=09=09=09= =09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09 Su = 29. Jul 14:41 =09=09=09=09=09=09= =09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09Sender=09=09=09=09=09=09= =09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09= =09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09gentoo-user+bounces-184518-mad.scientist.at.large= =3Dtutanota.com@lists.gentoo.org =09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09= =09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09= =09=09 = =09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09= =09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09To=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09= =09=09=09=09 =09=09= =09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09 = gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org =09=09= =09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09 = = =09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09= =09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09Bcc=09=09=09=09=09=09=09= =09=09=09=09=09=09 = =09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09Me > = =09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09= =09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09 = =09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09= =09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09ReplyTo=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09= =09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09= =09=09=09=09=09=09gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org =09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09= =09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09 = =09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09[gen= too-user] =3D|=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09= =09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09Look, this system was installed when I went 64 bit = back in 2010... I put a great deal more work than I should into keeping it running. I use Eclean-dist every time to purge dead packages. I've learned that this is a very important step, often more important than the actual update step... I just went through my use flags and removed about a dozen of them that have since been deprecated... My package.mask and package.use are both very minimal. I run emptytree-world on every significant compiler upgrade. I'm running an emptytree world today because the system has been through a lot of torture over the past week. If there is anything "janky" or hacky in my setup it's for exactly one reason: It was the first solution I found to a real actual problem I was dealing with at the time after up to two weeks of desperately searching. I take great offence to anyone who tells me that it's MY fault. =3D| --=20 Please report bounces from this address to atg@numentics.com /End Original Post, thankfully. "We kill when we close our eyes to poverty, affliction or infamy. We kill w= hen, because it is easier, we countenance or pretend to approve of atrophie= d social, political, educational and religious institutions instead of reso= lutely combating them." - Hesse 29. Jul 2018 16:00 by rdalek1967@gmail.com : > Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 16:41:43 -0400, Alan Grimes wrote: >> >>> I take great offence to anyone who tells me that it's MY fault. =3D| >> For someone that spews out such hateful and ungrateful diatribes, you >> seem awfully sensitive to the mildest of criticism passing in the other >> direction. >> >> BTW eclean-dist simply remove old tarballs from $DISTDIR, it has no >> effect on the running system. >> >> > > Exactly.=C2=A0 When I read that about cleaning dist files, I was like, WH= AT?=C2=A0 > If a person has plenty of disk space, they could run their system, > update it every day if they felt like it and it not affect a single > thing, other than disk space.=C2=A0 Having the source tarballs around can > actually be a good thing if one has a slower internet connection.=C2=A0 H= eck, > I forget to clean mine until my disk space starts getting low on that > partition. Try as I might, I forget to clean them out and it doesn't > break anything.=C2=A0 Running --depclean is a good idea.=C2=A0 That does = clean out > some cruft.=C2=A0 I don't think I've ever had it break anything but no ne= ed > having it around to manage either.=C2=A0 > > I have to ask.=C2=A0 I'm not seeing the original posts from this one.=C2= =A0 Is > this that Alan, not the smart and intelligent Alan but the other Alan, > that had that nifty script that did the stupidest stuff and then went on > to blame Gentoo for what his script did?=C2=A0 I think, after a ton of > patience, I blocked that guy.=C2=A0 That would explain why I'm not seeing= the > original posts.=C2=A0 > > Dale > > :-)=C2=A0 :-)=C2=A0 ------=_Part_69772_1894903491.1532920454287 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09=09Look, this system was installed when I went 64 b= it back in 2010...

I put a great deal more work than I should in= to keeping it running.

I use Eclean-dist every time to purge dea= d packages. I've learned that
this is a very important step, often mor= e important than the actual
update step...

I just went thro= ugh my use flags and removed about a dozen of them that
have since bee= n deprecated...

My package.mask and package.use are both very mi= nimal. I run
emptytree-world on every significant compiler upgrade.
I'm running an emptytree world today because the system has been t= hrough
a lot of torture over the past week.

If there is any= thing "janky" or hacky in my setup it's for exactly one
reas= on: It was the first solution I found to a real actual problem I was
d= ealing with at the time after up to two weeks of desperately searching.
I take great offence to anyone who tells me that it's MY fault. =3D|



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Please report bounces from this address to atg@numentics.com

/End Original Post, th= ankfully.

"We kill when we close our eyes to pov= erty, affliction or infamy. We=20 kill when, because it is easier, we countenance or pretend to approve of atrophied social, political, educational and religious institutions=20 instead of resolutely combating them."
- Hesse


29. Jul 2018 16:00 by rdalek1967@gmail.= com:

Neil Bothwick= wrote:
On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 16:41:43 -0400, Alan Grimes wrote:
I take great offence to anyone who tells me that it's MY fa= ult. =3D|
For someone that spews out such hateful and ungratefu= l diatribes, you
seem awfully sensitive to the mildest of criticism pa= ssing in the other
direction.

BTW eclean-dist simply remove= old tarballs from $DISTDIR, it has no
effect on the running system.

Exactly.  When I read that about cleaning= dist files, I was like, WHAT? 
If a person has plenty of disk sp= ace, they could run their system,
update it every day if they felt lik= e it and it not affect a single
thing, other than disk space.  Ha= ving the source tarballs around can
actually be a good thing if one ha= s a slower internet connection.  Heck,
I forget to clean mine unt= il my disk space starts getting low on that
partition. Try as I might,= I forget to clean them out and it doesn't
break anything.  Runni= ng --depclean is a good idea.  That does clean out
some cruft.&nb= sp; I don't think I've ever had it break anything but no need
having i= t around to manage either. 

I have to ask.  I'm not se= eing the original posts from this one.  Is
this that Alan, not th= e smart and intelligent Alan but the other Alan,
that had that nifty s= cript that did the stupidest stuff and then went on
to blame Gentoo fo= r what his script did?  I think, after a ton of
patience, I block= ed that guy.  That would explain why I'm not seeing the
original = posts. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 
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