From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6F8711396D0 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2017 16:17:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DECA31FC063; Mon, 21 Aug 2017 16:17:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from w1.tutanota.de (w1.tutanota.de [81.3.6.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 83CD81FC009 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2017 16:17:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by w1.tutanota.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA996FAC875 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2017 16:17:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from w1.tutanota.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (w1.tutanota.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uvHPIgNEAaMZ for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2017 18:17:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from w1.tutanota.de (unknown [192.168.1.162]) by w1.tutanota.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03147FAC9AF for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2017 16:17:18 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=tutanota.com; s=20161216; t=1503332238; bh=SzT6Sfh+wH7Go7/nfgkh9b3IE0PjsGkl7pGeMuXnelI=; h=Date:From:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From; b=BCvUZZA2kdLUPWaG91x+A4q0JRK/t3wSmx8o6rAYmXIZ2d0sleJq36V2jfrlyxXc3 jahCwmlEPR38DFta70PVFN6QCPInJu95/HLNx//LGLyjqalPxErsfrSKobKJ33Zz5E dQEcjkVAV9+sricsJVjm6je20B3kq36T3QD/u/CpuaZoxzMR7Vx5hbCfK+66h10+7D 7yBeZ32mx6NPSqJ+IyNCpuAiv+PDPVmu7t2eR7I6U6FR3vvhy4euSc4WXCn+Tr9Q8Y KU6mFc9leVWzYNJq/VOnspfLcT5Xyepd+JRIToCgj3XQH34po5LWE5zzQJ77oi+Hiy 2lS/8V8ue2AcA== Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 18:17:17 +0200 (CEST) From: To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <319cb05c-203a-ab1a-a574-73677f37e804@gmail.com> References: <> <319cb05c-203a-ab1a-a574-73677f37e804@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Question on install Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_12474_1906560462.1503332237987" X-Archives-Salt: 4a2f3943-4037-4850-89fc-ad66c6d91e49 X-Archives-Hash: 43becffbddf4bf5554facbc250d87aec ------=_Part_12474_1906560462.1503332237987 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable precisely what happened, sorry i didn't realize that chainging the "subject= " line causes confusion.=C2=A0 now i know, now i can avoid that mistake. -- Securely sent with Tutanota. 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Aug 2017 09:37 by rdalek1967@gmail.com: > > mad.scientist.at.large@tutanota.com> wrote: > > =20 >> refering to the amd64 handbook, at gentoo.org=C2=A0 "downloa= ding the stage tarball"=C2=A0 where it says " >> >> Downloading the stage tarball>> =20 >> Go to the Gentoo mount point where the root file system is mounte= d (most likely >> /mnt/gentoo>> ): =20 >> >> >> root #>> cd /mnt/gentoo"=20 >> =20 >> does that mean to change to where gentoo will be installed, = or where the cd/dvd is mounted?=C2=A0 i'm using a gentoo live = dvd.=C2=A0 seriously just trying to get a basic install to start = with.=C2=A0 i ask because it doesn't seem reasonable (to my = ignorant brain) to download to the ram drive created by the = install dvd, if so then so, whatever works.=C2=A0 life is a le= arning process, those who've chosen to stop learning have chosen= to stop living in a meaningful was.=C2=A0 i may trip sometimes,= but i am always, always trying to learn, especially when it's "= inconvenient".=C2=A0 thanks to all those intending to help.=C2= =A0=20 >> =20 >> i have never cross posted, if this email appears anywhere = other than ">> gentoo-user@list.gentoo.org>> please ch= eck the headers, it wasn't me, was never that ignorant nor arrog= ant. >> >> >> -- =20 >> Securely sent with Tutanota. Claim your encrypted mailbox today! = =20 >> >> https://tutanota.com>> =20 > =20 > I think the technical term is thread hijacking.=C2=A0 I'm attaching a= screenshot of what you did and what is being talked about.=C2=A0 What y= ou did was pick a email, hit reply, changed the subject to yours and = then sent it to the list.=C2=A0 At that point, the topic of the thread c= hanged.=C2=A0 Some of us track mailing lists using threaded messages.=C2=A0= That way we can track back to a older message easily and see exactly = what message is being replied to, even if it is snipped out.=C2=A0 It a= lso makes it easier to ignore threads that we are not interested in.=20 > =20 > A good reason not to do this, people may not follow the older thread = that was hijacked and those people, who may have the answer, will nev= er see your question.=C2=A0 By starting a new thread, people are much mo= re likely to see it.=C2=A0 As a example, if I see a systemd thread, I pa= ss it by since I don't use it and would find it highly unlikely that I c= ould help them in any way.=C2=A0 People who use systemd tho, they would = see the thread and see if they can help.=C2=A0 However, if you bury it i= nside of another thread that is unrelated, they may not see your questio= n.=C2=A0=20 > =20 > Hope that helps. > =20 > Dale > =20 > :-)=C2=A0 :-)=C2=A0=20 > ------=_Part_12474_1906560462.1503332237987 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit precisely what happened, sorry i didn't realize that chainging the "subject" line causes confusion.  now i know, now i can avoid that mistake.

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21. Aug 2017 09:37 by rdalek1967@gmail.com:

mad.scientist.at.large@tutanota.com wrote:
refering to the amd64 handbook, at gentoo.org  "downloading the stage tarball"  where it says "

Downloading the stage tarball

Go to the Gentoo mount point where the root file system is mounted (most likely /mnt/gentoo):

root #cd /mnt/gentoo"

does that mean to change to where gentoo will be installed, or where the cd/dvd is mounted?  i'm using a gentoo live dvd.  seriously just trying to get a basic install to start with.  i ask because it doesn't seem reasonable (to my ignorant brain) to download to the ram drive created by the install dvd, if so then so, whatever works.  life is a learning process, those who've chosen to stop learning have chosen to stop living in a meaningful was.  i may trip sometimes, but i am always, always trying to learn, especially when it's "inconvenient".  thanks to all those intending to help. 

i have never cross posted, if this email appears anywhere other than "gentoo-user@list.gentoo.org please check the headers, it wasn't me, was never that ignorant nor arrogant.
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I think the technical term is thread hijacking.  I'm attaching a screenshot of what you did and what is being talked about.  What you did was pick a email, hit reply, changed the subject to yours and then sent it to the list.  At that point, the topic of the thread changed.  Some of us track mailing lists using threaded messages.  That way we can track back to a older message easily and see exactly what message is being replied to, even if it is snipped out.  It also makes it easier to ignore threads that we are not interested in.

A good reason not to do this, people may not follow the older thread that was hijacked and those people, who may have the answer, will never see your question.  By starting a new thread, people are much more likely to see it.  As a example, if I see a systemd thread, I pass it by since I don't use it and would find it highly unlikely that I could help them in any way.  People who use systemd tho, they would see the thread and see if they can help.  However, if you bury it inside of another thread that is unrelated, they may not see your question. 

Hope that helps.

Dale

:-)  :-) 
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