From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DAC9A15800A for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2023 17:36:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 97D7AE0D68; Mon, 31 Jul 2023 17:36:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qv1-f41.google.com (mail-qv1-f41.google.com [209.85.219.41]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B4928E0D42 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2023 17:36:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qv1-f41.google.com with SMTP id 6a1803df08f44-63cf6f49a9fso7025386d6.1 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2023 10:36:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20221208; t=1690824976; x=1691429776; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:to:subject:from:date :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=aXg56XgT5uP+yf0B5VklbDtbQ8fCZ6qGFM5/vOTkhFw=; b=cRJgfCoeQhfwfPkcJGZFOfLttXpTlbV4oDKOEU6veJiir1EP8hfl969mRYqjE+tDz+ 5QFTPBmYjzIppJuR4gR3OhUdwSgvz13PICK/MaFOCHHGlKbqAa/fQlWur+3+Qr4pPgKK kUPYfyCysdDH6zZGZe8131dxbypX1isK47LgMHmNaHSvLnR02dxahj/z5CUZcLDMUJ5s riY5gyZ92Hss4i/uBjfS0mi3/vSGtIu5NM8DC3rxhdDYHO+kFuawHQ9ZuoOOiV1C8aec iwM0ldiaiDW+eu97cbMjpmpkOGgn5VwdT1/j28omjsSzIAscnJ9mMvXovtgpgLzMTz+M FWug== X-Gm-Message-State: ABy/qLbSyScYy5dZVQ5Dk3Y8gyR+TVMKsDpU7dwNL2oCOEiujOWQiVM3 BV2/9BSthKqrN/e6rzAyPyMmDFDAHysxDKtggrEcYQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APBJJlEeB5BbfIuXRoO8I/cu6VfccF+DFtgi+Z/TxD8fWX3GqZfPI5lfqm8HP/gtNTCE4Ce2QVoR3w== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6214:400e:b0:63d:2a0b:3f91 with SMTP id kd14-20020a056214400e00b0063d2a0b3f91mr10778710qvb.2.1690824976165; Mon, 31 Jul 2023 10:36:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ffortso9 (c-73-238-129-126.hsd1.ct.comcast.net. [73.238.129.126]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m6-20020a0c9d06000000b006362d4eeb6esm3892735qvf.144.2023.07.31.10.36.15 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 31 Jul 2023 10:36:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2023 13:36:14 -0400 From: Jack Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2313990.ElGaqSPkdT@wstn> <5ae103ff53770b6d9eff69468422bad306e7f326.camel@connell.tech> <13319002.uLZWGnKmhe@wstn> <66c296da3982620ef69abcd588b8377f8a588450.camel@connell.tech> <9e07b48f50e29a4d260f88297f9f0d386075a97a.camel@connell.tech> In-Reply-To: <9e07b48f50e29a4d260f88297f9f0d386075a97a.camel@connell.tech> X-Mailer: Balsa 2.6.4-168-g93d8fe533 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; DelSp=Yes; Format=Flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: ace38e4a-143d-4091-b539-00fa7370d4fe X-Archives-Hash: 3caa5acc1d5515e9645c92dffb89130f On 2023.07.31 13:23, Matt Connell wrote: > On Mon, 2023-07-31 at 20:16 +0300, Alexe Stefan wrote: > > > Normally I would be in the chorus of "why do I need a whole entire > > > web > > > engine for an email client" but I'm also in the group of people =20 > who > > > knows full well what the answer is. > > > > What is the answer? > > Mutt doesn't need a web engine. >=20 > For the reason that you just demonstrated for the class: HTML emails. >=20 > Now, your simple mail shows just fine in a plain text only mail =20 > client, > but in my world, and I'd wager most people's world, handling HTML > messages (which includes CSS for legibility) is a necessity to some > varying degree. >=20 > Don't get me wrong, I'm "team plaintext" all day every day but I'm not > going to make my life more difficult on principles. There are hills > worth dying on but this isn't mine. I haven't tried it in a while, but Carbonyl =20 (https://github.com/fathyb/carbonyl) is a web browser that runs in a =20 terminal. I wonder if it could be used for a text based email client =20 to actually display HTML emails, without the overhead of one of the big =20 graphics libs.