From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ECrGU-0000fr-Kw for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 07 Sep 2005 04:10:27 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j8745O46017110; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 04:05:24 GMT Received: from flower.jolet.net (cpe-24-27-31-221.austin.res.rr.com [24.27.31.221]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j873vl86020572 for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2005 03:57:52 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by flower.jolet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2555C18035 for ; Tue, 6 Sep 2005 23:01:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from flower.jolet.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (flower.jolet.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 23217-05 for ; Tue, 6 Sep 2005 23:01:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [192.168.1.50] (unknown [192.168.1.1]) by flower.jolet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99F0918031 for ; Tue, 6 Sep 2005 23:01:12 -0500 (CDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v734) In-Reply-To: <20050907010850.GD26857@waltdnes.org> References: <200509010402.j8141G5V026647@robin.gentoo.org> <43171ED0.6040402@Media-Brokers.com> <20050903223954.GA2047@waltdnes.org> <5bdc1c8b05090315561f193c1b@mail.gmail.com> <20050904190742.4dfd4d46@krikkit.digimed.co.uk> <5bdc1c8b050904130268e0cde5@mail.gmail.com> <20050904215718.1c64d0f0@hactar.digimed.co.uk> <5bdc1c8b0509041411517d35ae@mail.gmail.com> <20050907010850.GD26857@waltdnes.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Jolet Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly OT: favorite window manager/desktop environ? Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 23:01:11 -0500 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.734) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at jolet.net X-Archives-Salt: f82232a4-02dc-40d6-94f1-55e91d91a7ec X-Archives-Hash: e1db2784b843c1f22b55471fe945ee6b On Sep 6, 2005, at 8:08 PM, waltdnes@waltdnes.org wrote: > On Sun, Sep 04, 2005 at 02:11:51PM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote > > >> My 'disagreement', if there is one, is that a savings of $300 for a >> new computer and a $99 Windows upgrade won't convince many people to >> learn to do it themselves using Linux. It takes a much stronger >> reason >> than that, at least in my limited part of the planet. >> > > How about "the hard truth"... > > Admiinistering Linux is hard. > Keeping a Windows machine free of spyware is harder. amen brother....can I get a witness? As an independent technical consultant, I make most of my money, unfortunately, cleaning windows computers of spyware. In most of those cases, any old linux desktop with openoffice would fit their needs, but they've bought the marketing. In most of those cases, the amount of money they'd have paid me to do the "up front" administering, would have been less. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list