From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1FH5Jp-0006IB-T7 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2006 20:31:38 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id k28KTcki017004; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 20:29:38 GMT Received: from mail.nucoretech.com (mail.nucoretech.com [12.146.132.130]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k28KOCSC020323 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 20:24:13 GMT Received: from paris ([192.9.200.83]) by mail.nucoretech.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with SMTP id k28KO7qY032200 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2006 12:24:10 -0800 From: "Bob Young" To: Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] antivirus Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 12:24:09 -0800 Message-ID: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Importance: Normal In-reply-to: <440F2F1F.1070408@ep.mine.nu> X-Archives-Salt: c1d88494-2f5c-4dc0-b970-9feb66b61aa5 X-Archives-Hash: 7e4dc7f1a64a0d2a180c43dd6a57827b -----Original Message----- From: neil [mailto:neil@ep.mine.nu] Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 11:23 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] antivirus Jarry wrote: > I got viruses many times. Over the past 20-odd years, I have had machines running many versions of DOS, all versions of Windows since Windows 286, all versions of OS/2 since 1.3 and several distributions of Linux. I have never, ever seen a virus. I have to wonder what you are doing to be so "unfortunate". Here, here. It's really not about the OS, or what "protection" software is or isn't installed, it's about the habits and practices of the user. Any computer can (and probably will) be compromised if the user is careless or naive about what they do and where they go on the Net. Like you, I've run different versions of DOS, Windows (NT derivatives only), OS/2, & Linux. I did get a virus once in the early days when running DOS, but since then I've never had a Windows or Linux box compromised by a virus or malware, and that's without running any anti-virus software of any kind on any of the Windows boxes. FWIW one of those Windows boxes is currently a web/email/DNS/FTP server with seven public IPs serving between four and seven domains. There is also a Gentoo Linux box doing secondary DNS for the domains, the windows box has a firewall but no AV software at all, both servers (one Windows & one Gentoo), have remained clean and stable for several years now, as do all of my various Windows and Gentoo workstations, none of which run any antivirus software. In short if a user is getting infected a lot using Windows, switching to Linux is not curing the root cause. The basic problem is the user needs to understand what s/he is doing that's allowing malicious code to execute on their system and stop doing it. In the vast majority of Windows cases, simply *not* routinely logging on with admin privileges would probably stop 99% plus of the infections. Regards, Bob Young -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list