From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E2oue-0006YM-MI for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 11:38:25 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j7ABamPF004313; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 11:36:48 GMT Received: from lmfilto01.st1.spray.net (lmfilto01.st1.spray.net [212.78.202.65]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j7ABWv6A032262 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 11:32:57 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lmfilto01.st1.spray.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB16A186CCB for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 11:33:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lmcodec04.st1.spray.net ([212.78.202.209]) by localhost (lmfilto01.st1.spray.net [212.78.202.32]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08099-05 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 11:33:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lmcodec04.st1.spray.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lmcodec04.st1.spray.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 73364CF904 for ; Wed, 10 Aug 2005 11:33:36 +0000 (GMT) Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=lycos.co.uk; h=From:Subject; b=bIJA3mvskX2BpjNzbGa4R0dD1k6Ty3MvVBe8gULJ7Jr1T3AQl0XtP3zo0QNB56r2XYAtJLiVflUjcENhutslL/ZeyQTWaMfdt+5WZ7iHcApvoWPkGa1zyxxzapCQygT2bZnriIvtyrzIGFu6CzmbrNVY5AA724p4iugdeKTw62E=; From: "Michael Kintzios" To: Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] [OT] Mozilla & Google behind the scenes payola Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 12:33:43 +0100 Message-ID: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <20050810001426.GA1751@may.frognet.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at spray.net X-Archives-Salt: e7203ea4-e862-4167-bdb6-71c182547995 X-Archives-Hash: fee6f76570b54c0616ff79fd497b19fb > -----Original Message----- > From: John J. Foster [mailto:Gentoo-User@festus.150ml.com] > Sent: 10 August 2005 01:14 > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Mozilla & Google behind the > scenes payola > > > On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 05:05:34PM -0400, Paul M Foster wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 03:52:10PM -0400, John J. Foster wrote: > > > > > http://www.scroogle.org/gscrape.html#ffox > > > I've read the linked page(s) and I've also read some other relevant articles. I have not yet seen a clear enough thesis that explains why on this occasion creating a 'for profit' organisation will serve more effectively the public good/end user. If indeed true, then I don't think that private information (search/browsing patterns) being shared without knowledge and consent of the user is acceptable. Car manufacturers sponsoring *privately* funded events (like a TV show) is clearly not the same. These days many companies sponsor events for charitable organisations - the question is to what extend is this sponsoring acceptable. I suggest that it is acceptable only to the extent that it does not compromise the objectives of the not for profit organisation. Sharing our private information (i.e. our own browsing trends) for profit without our consent is evidently not on - whether undertaken by a for profit or not organisation! Any idea how Opera (adware in its 'free' form) behaves on this issue? I suspect it probably does the same, but at least it clearly states so when you first launch the unpaid program. Not sure what happens if you pay for it. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list