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From: "Michael Kintzios" <michaelkintzios@lycos.co.uk>
To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] [OT] Mozilla & Google behind the scenes payola
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 12:33:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <F49BE7328A1DA246AFC5C2CDDB86D9170D47A3@BCV0X134EXC0005> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050810001426.GA1751@may.frognet.net>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: John J. Foster [mailto:Gentoo-User@festus.150ml.com] 
> Sent: 10 August 2005 01:14
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Mozilla & Google behind the 
> scenes payola
> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 05:05:34PM -0400, Paul M Foster wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 03:52:10PM -0400, John J. Foster wrote:
> > 
> > > http://www.scroogle.org/gscrape.html#ffox
> > > 

I've read the linked page(s) and I've also read some other relevant
articles.  I have not yet seen a clear enough thesis that explains why
on this occasion creating a 'for profit' organisation will serve more
effectively the public good/end user.  If indeed true, then I don't
think that private information (search/browsing patterns) being shared
without knowledge and consent of the user is acceptable.  Car
manufacturers sponsoring *privately* funded events (like a TV show) is
clearly not the same.  These days many companies sponsor events for
charitable organisations - the question is to what extend is this
sponsoring acceptable.  I suggest that it is acceptable only to the
extent that it does not compromise the objectives of the not for profit
organisation.  Sharing our private information (i.e. our own browsing
trends) for profit without our consent is evidently not on - whether
undertaken by a for profit or not organisation!

Any idea how Opera (adware in its 'free' form) behaves on this issue?  I
suspect it probably does the same, but at least it clearly states so
when you first launch the unpaid program.  Not sure what happens if you
pay for it.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-08-10 11:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-08-09 19:52 [gentoo-user] [OT] Mozilla & Google behind the scenes payola John J. Foster
2005-08-09 21:05 ` Paul M Foster
2005-08-10  0:14   ` John J. Foster
2005-08-10  3:56     ` Bob Sanders
2005-08-10 11:33     ` Michael Kintzios [this message]
2005-08-10 12:13       ` Holly Bostick
2005-08-10 12:51         ` Neil Bothwick
2005-08-10 23:58           ` Iain Buchanan
2005-08-11  0:31             ` Holly Bostick
2005-08-11 10:10               ` Michael Kintzios
2005-08-11 12:39                 ` Holly Bostick
2005-08-11 12:47                   ` Michael Kintzios
2005-08-11 19:30                 ` Antoine
2005-08-10 13:28         ` Michael Kintzios
2005-08-10 13:42           ` Hans-Werner Hilse
2005-08-11  0:00             ` Iain Buchanan
2005-08-11 21:38               ` Hans-Werner Hilse
2005-08-11  2:29         ` Matt Randolph
2005-08-11 14:07           ` Holly Bostick
2005-08-11 14:34             ` Holly Bostick
2005-08-11 15:48             ` Michael Kintzios
2005-08-11 20:19             ` Benno Schulenberg
2005-08-11 15:01               ` Ian K
2005-08-11 19:19         ` Antoine
2005-08-11 17:51           ` Holly Bostick
2005-08-12  2:51           ` Bob Sanders
2005-08-12  7:31             ` Neil Bothwick
2005-08-12 13:17               ` Holly Bostick
2005-08-12 14:22                 ` Neil Bothwick
2005-08-12 15:16                   ` Holly Bostick
2005-08-12 15:50                     ` Neil Bothwick
2005-08-12 16:10                     ` Uwe Thiem
2005-08-12 16:36                     ` Michael Kintzios
2005-08-12  9:34             ` Michael Kintzios
2005-08-11 14:49     ` Paul M Foster
2005-08-10 16:17   ` Billy Holmes
2005-08-10 16:43     ` Holly Bostick
2005-08-10 17:17       ` Michael Crute
2005-08-10 23:34         ` Philip Webb
2005-08-10 12:17 ` Hans-Werner Hilse

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