From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KCWi9-0005U2-QU for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 09:27:14 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8FFE6E0388; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 09:27:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpout.karoo.kcom.com (smtpout.karoo.kcom.com [212.50.160.34]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E24EE0388 for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 09:27:11 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,719,1204502400"; d="scan'208";a="6925816" Received: from compaq.stroller.uk.eu.org ([213.152.39.90]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 28 Jun 2008 10:26:34 +0100 Received: from [192.168.1.71] (funf.stroller.uk.eu.org [192.168.1.71]) by compaq.stroller.uk.eu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6A59137996 for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:27:07 +0100 (BST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20080628044126.3f44efe2@ilievnet.com> References: <4864059A.7070602@paradise.net.nz> <486408e8.H6jJprFk5Zz6c8f9%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <200806271100.15762.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <4864b227.lYMApV4Tx50fgp98%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <28FC20CF-A74D-4C91-8F0C-9CEA66599471@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> <4864b997.wuGCZVlMdDQKTIxH%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <20080627215052.381fe4ed@ilievnet.com> <486567c2.PzqXKZJYaHOvK7F7%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> <20080628044126.3f44efe2@ilievnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Stroller Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:26:56 +0100 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Archives-Salt: 3a9b8d43-c40f-4be8-8b92-9656bda4dc8a X-Archives-Hash: 4fff0b3b1cc8dca504aaf065d07ff31f On 28 Jun 2008, at 02:41, Daniel Iliev wrote: > On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 00:20:50 +0200 > Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) wrote: > >> Daniel Iliev wrote: >> >>> The question is valid and interesting, moreover it is asked very >>> kindly. I can't see what possibly might be preventing you to answer >>> the same way. >> >> I did answer these questions many times before and in many cases I >> have later been attacked. Joerg, then perhaps it would be easy for you to provide a link to those answers? If I were answering the same question many times, then I'd probably set up an FAQ page on my website. >> The URLs mentioned did point to disinformation from lwn.net that >> should be easily identifyable as incorrect claims. If such URLs are >> published without comment, I asume that the questionair believes the >> incorrect claims from lwn.net. Would you answer people if they make >> untrue claims (e.g. by giving uncommented pointers to other peoples >> incorrect articles) before asking? >> > > No, this is your assumption. Mine is the opposite - as I see it, the > question is very real and the author admitted that he found those URLs > using Google which implies he had nothing to do them. Yes, exactly. I Googled to try & find out Joerg's side of the story & it simply wasn't immediately obvious (why he chose to change to the CDDL). There was no malice in my question - from the sounds of it, Joerg's software is better than the fork. If it doesn't affect me then I won't bother one way or the other, but if one license is clearly better than the other (or if Joerg is genuinely the victim of malicious or jealous wossisname) then I'll be really militant about switching all my machines. I use Free software because my right to continue using it is protected. > I mean no offense, but allow me to be blunt. This practice of yours > is not only extremely annoying, but it is also very unwise because it > backfires - instead of making people understand your problem, now you > have a list of annoyed Gentoo fans. Exactly. For periods I don't follow the list at all, but I have encountered Joerg's posts before and this latest thread just started to piss me off. Honestly, Joerg, the tone of your messages just makes me feel you're irrational. If I felt he was righteous & justified in his indignation then I'd climb on his team. Until this morning's exchange of posts I just felt he was avoiding my question because he couldn't fairly argue his position. > You want to use the CDDL. On the other hand you can't release the > whole > project under CDDL, because there are parts written by other people > who > had released their work under GPL before you took the project. So, you > dual-licensed the package, releasing the parts you have written by > yourself as CDDL and the others w/o changing the license. That's fair enough. Why do you prefer the CDDL to the GPL, Joerg? Stroller. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list