From: Stroller <stroller@stellar.eclipse.co.uk>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:26:56 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E4A8ED2C-ED20-42DE-8855-DFBCD1489A1A@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080628044126.3f44efe2@ilievnet.com>
On 28 Jun 2008, at 02:41, Daniel Iliev wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 00:20:50 +0200
> Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) wrote:
>
>> Daniel Iliev <daniel.iliev@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The question is valid and interesting, moreover it is asked very
>>> kindly. I can't see what possibly might be preventing you to answer
>>> the same way.
>>
>> I did answer these questions many times before and in many cases I
>> have later been attacked.
Joerg, then perhaps it would be easy for you to provide a link to
those answers? If I were answering the same question many times, then
I'd probably set up an FAQ page on my website.
>> The URLs mentioned did point to disinformation from lwn.net that
>> should be easily identifyable as incorrect claims. If such URLs are
>> published without comment, I asume that the questionair believes the
>> incorrect claims from lwn.net. Would you answer people if they make
>> untrue claims (e.g. by giving uncommented pointers to other peoples
>> incorrect articles) before asking?
>>
>
> No, this is your assumption. Mine is the opposite - as I see it, the
> question is very real and the author admitted that he found those URLs
> using Google which implies he had nothing to do them.
Yes, exactly. I Googled to try & find out Joerg's side of the story &
it simply wasn't immediately obvious (why he chose to change to the
CDDL).
There was no malice in my question - from the sounds of it, Joerg's
software is better than the fork. If it doesn't affect me then I
won't bother one way or the other, but if one license is clearly
better than the other (or if Joerg is genuinely the victim of
malicious or jealous wossisname) then I'll be really militant about
switching all my machines. I use Free software because my right to
continue using it is protected.
> I mean no offense, but allow me to be blunt. This practice of yours
> is not only extremely annoying, but it is also very unwise because it
> backfires - instead of making people understand your problem, now you
> have a list of annoyed Gentoo fans.
Exactly. For periods I don't follow the list at all, but I have
encountered Joerg's posts before and this latest thread just started
to piss me off. Honestly, Joerg, the tone of your messages just makes
me feel you're irrational.
If I felt he was righteous & justified in his indignation then I'd
climb on his team. Until this morning's exchange of posts I just felt
he was avoiding my question because he couldn't fairly argue his
position.
> You want to use the CDDL. On the other hand you can't release the
> whole
> project under CDDL, because there are parts written by other people
> who
> had released their work under GPL before you took the project. So, you
> dual-licensed the package, releasing the parts you have written by
> yourself as CDDL and the others w/o changing the license.
That's fair enough.
Why do you prefer the CDDL to the GPL, Joerg?
Stroller.
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Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-06-25 20:21 [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's Yoav Luft
2008-06-25 21:01 ` Uwe Thiem
2008-06-25 21:50 ` John covici
2008-06-26 9:46 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-26 10:23 ` John covici
2008-06-26 10:53 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-26 11:06 ` John covici
2008-06-26 11:16 ` Mark Kirkwood
2008-06-26 11:20 ` Mark Kirkwood
2008-06-26 11:34 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-26 11:57 ` John covici
2008-06-26 12:15 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-07-01 11:08 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-26 21:09 ` Mark Kirkwood
2008-06-26 21:23 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-26 22:32 ` Mark Kirkwood
2008-06-27 8:30 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-07-01 11:16 ` [gentoo-user] OT: intentionally broken media Enrico Weigelt
2008-07-03 8:55 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-07-03 23:23 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-07-04 10:32 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-07-04 21:12 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-07-07 11:51 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-27 9:00 ` [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's Alan McKinnon
2008-06-27 9:25 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-27 9:50 ` Stroller
2008-06-27 9:57 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-27 10:06 ` Stroller
2008-06-27 18:50 ` Daniel Iliev
2008-06-27 22:20 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-27 22:53 ` b.n.
2008-06-28 9:12 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-28 1:41 ` Daniel Iliev
2008-06-28 9:26 ` Stroller [this message]
2008-06-28 11:02 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-28 11:54 ` b.n.
2008-06-28 20:59 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-29 1:11 ` b.n.
2008-06-29 1:55 ` Mark Kirkwood
2008-06-29 9:42 ` b.n.
2008-06-29 10:02 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-06-29 10:46 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-29 12:29 ` b.n.
2008-06-29 13:26 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-29 16:28 ` b.n.
2008-06-30 15:46 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-30 21:50 ` b.n.
2008-06-30 22:13 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-30 23:15 ` b.n.
2008-06-30 23:28 ` Mike Edenfield
2008-07-01 9:22 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-07-01 7:44 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-07-03 3:42 ` Aaron Clark
2008-07-03 12:03 ` Joerg Schilling
[not found] ` <48678d82.rmfIMzIpF6v323D6%Joerg.Sch illing@fokus.fraunhofer.de>
2008-06-29 14:49 ` [gentoo-user] " James
2008-06-28 12:10 ` [gentoo-user] " Volker Armin Hemmann
2008-06-28 12:36 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-06-29 11:05 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-29 11:47 ` Sascha Hlusiak
2008-06-29 13:18 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-29 14:02 ` Sascha Hlusiak
2008-06-29 19:10 ` Stroller
2008-06-30 16:08 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-30 17:29 ` brullo nulla
2008-07-01 8:52 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-29 19:00 ` Stroller
2008-06-30 16:01 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-28 16:41 ` Stroller
2008-06-28 10:06 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-28 11:47 ` b.n.
2008-06-28 20:33 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-29 0:00 ` Daniel Iliev
2008-06-29 12:02 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-29 16:51 ` Daniel Iliev
2008-06-28 18:33 ` Daniel Iliev
2008-06-29 9:50 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-06-29 11:37 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-29 16:18 ` Daniel Iliev
2008-06-29 16:23 ` Daniel Iliev
2008-06-29 23:43 ` Sebastian Günther
2008-06-30 8:47 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-30 18:24 ` Sebastian Günther
2008-07-01 12:26 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-07-01 12:18 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-07-01 11:44 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-07-01 17:12 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-07-01 18:39 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-27 9:54 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-07-01 11:39 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-07-01 17:06 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-07-03 22:55 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-26 11:16 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-26 13:29 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-07-01 11:05 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-28 12:14 ` Mick
2008-06-28 12:25 ` John covici
2008-06-29 10:51 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-27 9:21 ` Yoav Luft
2008-06-27 9:27 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-07-01 11:02 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-07-01 17:15 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-07-03 23:35 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-07-04 10:33 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-07-04 13:34 ` John covici
2008-07-04 13:51 ` Daniel Pielmeier
2008-07-04 21:08 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-07-07 11:42 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-26 5:53 ` Stroller
2008-06-26 7:53 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-06-26 12:08 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2008-06-26 13:38 ` Uwe Thiem
2008-06-26 15:00 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-26 1:38 ` W.Kenworthy
2008-06-26 10:21 ` Joerg Schilling
2008-06-26 3:26 ` Mark Shields
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