From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1R3r3W-0000pE-AF for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:07:18 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9707421C386; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:06:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpout.karoo.kcom.com (smtpout.karoo.kcom.com [212.50.160.34]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8242B21C182 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:04:48 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.67,527,1309734000"; d="scan'208";a="548937323" Received: from 213-152-39-90.dsl.eclipse.net.uk (HELO compaq.stroller.uk.eu.org) ([213.152.39.90]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 14 Sep 2011 16:04:47 +0100 Received: from [192.168.1.102] (unknown [192.168.1.102]) by compaq.stroller.uk.eu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC7AFA93D8 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 16:02:48 +0100 (BST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1244.3) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr From: Stroller In-Reply-To: <20110914102523.GA2722@acm.acm> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 16:04:29 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20110912150248.GB3599@acm.acm> <1469353.CZnlx9uQzD@pc> <20110913144036.GC3081@acm.acm> <1610416.l8aNQyuqUV@pc> <20110913153841.GD3081@acm.acm> <20110913223524.46cb4319@rohan.example.com> <20110914102523.GA2722@acm.acm> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1244.3) X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 7056c8f0f4180fc2105f206ca657c199 On 14 September 2011, at 11:25, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > ... >> No, by "you know what needs to be done" I mean: code. Contribute. >> Become a developer. Make shit happens the way you think it should >> happen. >=20 >> Shut up and code. Google it, I didn't come with the phrase. >=20 > Just as a matter of interest, how much coding have you done for open > source or free software? It was conspicuously absent from the CV you > posted here a few days ago. That's got nothing to do with it, and it's rude of you to make this = about Canek, IMO. It's YOU who wants things differently from the planned roadmap, so why = shouldn't YOU code the features? There have been a couple of posts in this thread, I don't recall who = made them, who talked of the "1% of users forcing this change on the = other 99%". This is an exceedingly disingenuous argument - it's the = Gentoo users, the objectors, who are the 1%. 99% of users won't even = notice this, because they're using binary distros.=20 My inclination is to agree with you. I detest initramfs, but I don't = significantly partition my disks, so I'm unaffected. But if you care = you'd better stop whining and get coding. It's inexcusable of you to try and turn the problem around and question = Canek's contributions to OSS if you're unprepared to make any yourself. Stroller.