From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5655B138334 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2018 23:01:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AFBB4E0D7B; Sun, 28 Oct 2018 23:01:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yb1-xb43.google.com (mail-yb1-xb43.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::b43]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3DD96E0D71 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2018 23:01:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yb1-xb43.google.com with SMTP id f15-v6so2194882ybq.13 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2018 16:01:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=wTRGeBx5yQey5VZgdxwqvA7sUyqCyIkIqbWWwFggg6k=; b=Wtd4X1+KnZyL4WGrzq98DKq1kAeI2pK6VhFfPGQAGsKEa0TWQwIlOr4uOfXbSL0GkS XnELF7kMrv8g+6XFRS5XAhxAVKDWWiIrQtVYbHn29NuLYW+jAkpDFFwlTuYxpuVZM3I4 ZLUw+PJTai07zQcsILFiU3Brk+Z0jBMxgrJcY+1fhpKMJm8SibT+dFKRuLYxKGBo7RG2 9VXryg1mTU2CBrO9SjIgBw00h5Y4O4r9RTy8p92pftFYPZNBvM4A3MfkZUYwZmJgS1OH i+yCRvbwYjyKQnBc7/QW+L/Jyy2qQBndE0XGSC/UlfqIuGLZ8n5+/wQdCPonREi49iai CSlw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=wTRGeBx5yQey5VZgdxwqvA7sUyqCyIkIqbWWwFggg6k=; b=khtbSvsPv+L1wfWxWV/v0dOEAT40dd6sQDWXI7QeOo3EcxRGs4m5AA2cS6M/7GWHUm P334C7fN/iwIhCpav0etiu47gaJwxPzp55RfvkkZVWuYp+ZAhkM1exmtCtVEB6Q2P8Ml M1D9VpzZz8wuyYaMHW8drCHLiBnzsww4tWr8dVUNMexdue1jTUzJ3oEXDBeJ3F4FWlAO i8qhZOFzuDedcBsqqIj2DePUB6t5zVUXMxl5KNnwOui5SnMt3MDrZN8YqRgmNQinzAWa x2C7dbE3LTVaK8Tvwj8H3A3ohv1OdNROZ4L2S8t4TKZNrw6bElSJPjniqsOEzqDD8LHk Lp2Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gKWLXJ4K0MXiW+s2G6MTDnt6b5JJpO+pFGew2O/9hC0dgKVixDC WwySdMDwtIHr3Z9U65hABDoRU/P5 X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5cPjTVMteKrSQ9ZWCMNXXU0gn4prAjwvoCtyx7/r4yZzIaHsZ11Wg16Itwz88DQ5Y/3MEkGFw== X-Received: by 2002:a25:5d0:: with SMTP id 199-v6mr11724192ybf.304.1540767668426; Sun, 28 Oct 2018 16:01:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2601:199:4301:564f:a06e:1548:a0a:ebbc? ([2601:199:4301:564f:a06e:1548:a0a:ebbc]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k185-v6sm2969778ywc.98.2018.10.28.16.01.07 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 28 Oct 2018 16:01:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Udvare Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.1 \(3445.101.1\)) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia driver surprise Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 19:01:04 -0400 References: <20181028135305.GA1931@ca.inter.net> <46BC5AF3-0DED-48CB-9D57-882DB66C61B8@gmail.com> <166bb20bd68.278f.83c5c26c404a765ed2e55e3ab0c1c65d@gmail.com> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <166bb20bd68.278f.83c5c26c404a765ed2e55e3ab0c1c65d@gmail.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.101.1) X-Archives-Salt: 3fd844e1-b4c6-45e8-8bd7-bdc18efe0afd X-Archives-Hash: ba9896189ecbed42c379a80b67a5013f > On 2018-10-28, at 10:42, Davyd McColl wrote: >=20 > Or perhaps go team red. Personally, I've had enough of team green's = drivers. My 660ti is still working fine, but if it dies, I think I'm = going red. Not saying the grass is 100% greener there (heh) but at least = you can't be held hostage with binary blobs. And they're cheaper. /2c >=20 > -d We're not in good shape on either side here. I would use AMD if they had = better performance on Linux with the open source driver. In terms of the long term, I don't see either open source driver = supporting every device for as long as the drivers are supported. At = some point there will probably be a split and then eventually those = legacy drivers will be removed from the kernel due to lack of = maintainers. Andrew=