[gentoo-user] Nvidia driver surprise

[gentoo-user] Nvidia driver surprise

[Philip Webb]

I updated to  xorg-server-1.20.3  yesterday & ran into trouble.
It wanted to update to  nvidia-drivers-396.54 ,
which doesn't support my graphics card ( Asus GT610 : bought 150914 ) :
there was an error msg in  Xorg.0.log  to this effect.
I tried  390.67  (which I had been using before yesterday)
& updating to  390.87 , but got errors with the latter
"failed to initialise kernel module" (Xorg)
& "nvidia : unknown symbol backlight_device_register" (kernel) ;
 390.67  won't emerge with  xorg-server-1.20.3 .

So I'm back using Nouveau, which seems to work adequately for most things,
but won't run 3D screensavers.

Perhaps I should buy a more upto-date graphics card.

Does anyone have comments or suggestions ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia driver surprise

[Andrew Udvare]

> On Oct 28, 2018, at 09:53, Philip Webb <purslow@ca.inter.net> wrote:
> 
> Perhaps I should buy a more upto-date graphics card.
> 
> Does anyone have comments or suggestions ?

Upgrade to the 1050 or so and you won’t have to upgrade for years. I am still on my GTX 980 since 2015.

[gentoo-user] Re: Nvidia driver surprise

[Nikos Chantziaras]

On 28/10/2018 15:53, Philip Webb wrote:
> I updated to  xorg-server-1.20.3  yesterday & ran into trouble.
> It wanted to update to  nvidia-drivers-396.54 ,
> which doesn't support my graphics card ( Asus GT610 : bought 150914 ) :
> there was an error msg in  Xorg.0.log  to this effect.
> I tried  390.67  (which I had been using before yesterday)
> & updating to  390.87 , but got errors with the latter
> "failed to initialise kernel module" (Xorg)
> & "nvidia : unknown symbol backlight_device_register" (kernel) ;
>   390.67  won't emerge with  xorg-server-1.20.3 .
> 
> So I'm back using Nouveau, which seems to work adequately for most things,
> but won't run 3D screensavers.
> 
> Perhaps I should buy a more upto-date graphics card.
> 
> Does anyone have comments or suggestions ?

The nvidia legacy GPU driver branch is a PITA to follow. You need to 
somehow magically know yourself which x.org versions they support and 
package.mask newer versions of xorg-server yourself. Nvidia does not 
seem to document the xorg versions they support. At least I haven't 
found the place they document it, if they do.

Right now, I would try to mask >=x11-base/xorg-server-1.20, do a:

   emerge -auDN @world

then re-emerge the legacy nvidia driver and see if that helps.

Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia driver surprise

[Davyd McColl]

Or perhaps go team red. Personally, I've had enough of team green's 
drivers. My 660ti is still working fine, but if it dies, I think I'm going 
red. Not saying the grass is 100% greener there (heh) but at least you 
can't be held hostage with binary blobs. And they're cheaper. /2c

-d


On October 28, 2018 4:28:37 PM Andrew Udvare <audvare@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>> On Oct 28, 2018, at 09:53, Philip Webb <purslow@ca.inter.net> wrote:
>>
>> Perhaps I should buy a more upto-date graphics card.
>>
>> Does anyone have comments or suggestions ?
>
> Upgrade to the 1050 or so and you won’t have to upgrade for years. I am 
> still on my GTX 980 since 2015.
>

Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia driver surprise

[Philip Webb]

181028 Davyd McColl wrote:
>> 181028 Philip Webb : Perhaps I should buy a more upto-date graphics card.
> Or perhaps go team red. Personally, I've had enough of team green's drivers.
> My 660ti is still working fine, but if it dies, I think I'm going red.
> you can't be held hostage with binary blobs. And they're cheaper.

Sorry, I don't understand your red/green code.

>> Upgrade to the 1050 or so and you won’t have to upgrade for years.
>> I am still on my GTX 980 since 2015.

I looked at my local store (Canada Computers, College St, Toronto)
& they offer an Asus GeForce GT1030 LP for  CAD 120 :
it runs at  1228 MHz  & has  2 GB  memory @  3004 MHz  with  64-bit  i/face.
My mobo is an Asus M5A97 AMD, which I bought  3 years ago .

Does anyone see a problem using this card with Nvidia & my mobo ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia driver surprise

[Davyd McColl]

Apologies - green is nvidia and red is amd. No special code - that's just 
their primary marketing colors.

-d


On October 28, 2018 17:03:32 Philip Webb <purslow@ca.inter.net> wrote:

> 181028 Davyd McColl wrote:
>>> 181028 Philip Webb : Perhaps I should buy a more upto-date graphics card.
>> Or perhaps go team red. Personally, I've had enough of team green's drivers.
>> My 660ti is still working fine, but if it dies, I think I'm going red.
>> you can't be held hostage with binary blobs. And they're cheaper.
>
> Sorry, I don't understand your red/green code.
>
>>> Upgrade to the 1050 or so and you won’t have to upgrade for years.
>>> I am still on my GTX 980 since 2015.
>
> I looked at my local store (Canada Computers, College St, Toronto)
> & they offer an Asus GeForce GT1030 LP for  CAD 120 :
> it runs at  1228 MHz  & has  2 GB  memory @  3004 MHz  with  64-bit  i/face.
> My mobo is an Asus M5A97 AMD, which I bought  3 years ago .
>
> Does anyone see a problem using this card with Nvidia & my mobo ?
>
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>
>

Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia driver surprise

[Andrew Udvare]

> On 2018-10-28, at 10:42, Davyd McColl <davydm@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Or perhaps go team red. Personally, I've had enough of team green's drivers. My 660ti is still working fine, but if it dies, I think I'm going red. Not saying the grass is 100% greener there (heh) but at least you can't be held hostage with binary blobs. And they're cheaper. /2c
> 
> -d

We're not in good shape on either side here. I would use AMD if they had better performance on Linux with the open source driver.

In terms of the long term, I don't see either open source driver supporting every device for as long as the drivers are supported. At some point there will probably be a split and then eventually those legacy drivers will be removed from the kernel due to lack of maintainers.

Andrew