From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JELnt-000433-CM for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:40:25 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 24995E0932; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:40:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.191]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23DBDE0930 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:40:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b22so1668051rvf.46 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 01:40:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=FVJU+WH3/kTw3QfNzVqruC9/GUaSPywOmkf7+VXo8Dw=; b=f7+sySNsZaTpmNMrW+RKB6AcOmGYutaOU4oa8FnF6NYIonRQ/4O9s97Wibnxw+s7OG2Zycykk60Zb/fwsQ0BxkZBhzBsSBDUNoCnvKFnWybS2S/wnAXKs97cIipZzqIlRERs/8OR62VceLqgwqOZfyNg6HfRzqUCR2pk8e3+izk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer; b=J8tbzWcy4gxtNhjVDE9lsfVbJTBaLdfQq9VFzBua9dnKqEr+xtE+rqNr3q9GQWgABcnd9FN2upfUp6scwO9CWA9lYDImGK7UVRjnbBElp4mn7mL0sCRhOY1iQtta2e2qQlXj3XodhH51YUqaq+SblUvK/zxXNktAGyB84qQ2ies= Received: by 10.141.83.15 with SMTP id k15mr3632529rvl.120.1200303601530; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 01:40:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.111? ( [125.212.12.216]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c3sm8643003rvf.37.2008.01.14.01.39.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 14 Jan 2008 01:40:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: From: Cocoy Dayao To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <20080114091719.647475c5@loonquawl.digimed.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Is GWN dead? Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:39:37 +0800 References: <20080111082729.GA12107@localhost> <6142e6140801110037p7d5167c5y619b318ba1bf652e@mail.gmail.com> <1200041896.10339.13.camel@localhost> <20080111091237.GB12107@localhost> <1343558.gq7T5pozvP@michael-schmarck.my-fqdn.de> <4789FECF.3020503@gmail.com> <20080113141730.039de79f@loonquawl.digimed.co.uk> <1338052.pDIsalx77d@michael-schmarck.my-fqdn.de> <20080113162915.1365cb20@loonquawl.digimed.co.uk> <20080113164650.GA8747@sin.khk.be> <1200247390.10387.12.camel@localhost> <478AAC72.1020705@gmail.com> <20080114091719.647475c5@loonquawl.digimed.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) X-Archives-Salt: 0294fded-03c8-4f68-89d8-fd14270dbe75 X-Archives-Hash: 3522e122525bb5279a0d0f091ec5337a On Jan 14, 2008, at 5:17 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 01:27:30 +0100, b.n. wrote: > >> If I can give you an advice: don't create a "new" livecd from >> scratch. >> Take an Ubuntu, Knoppix or similar live cd, just add these three >> files >> in a /gentoo directory, and re-release it xerox, with just the three >> files added and a Gentoo logo somewhere. > > Or simply rebuild the existing CD with a newer kernel. Almost all of > the > complaints about it being out of date can be traced back to the users' > hardware not being supported in the kernel used a year ago. > > yeah. i agree. In fact, imho the most perfect gentoo installer is the mini live cd! what more can anybody need? would it take much effort to maintain/refresh a mini live cd installer? Couldn't that be refreshed every couple of months? Having an "installer" gets newbies to like gentoo, reduces the barrier of entry and gets new blood for the community and introduces users to a whole new world and still give newbies the general idea of what gentoo is. not to mention give old hats a quick way to just get gentoo up and running as quickly as possible. if newbies find the mini live cd too difficult, then gentoo is probably not for them is it? Anything greater than a mini install cd i think, the community has the right to expect contributors to help develop. just my two cents worth. ------------------ Cocoy "People who are really serious about software should make their own hardware." --Alan Kay -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list