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Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 16:44:03 -0600
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Are those "green" drives any good?
From: Andrew Hoffman <sixgod@gmail.com>
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You guys might find this study from google interesting:
http://static.googleusercontent.com/external_content/untrusted_dlcp/researc=
h.google.com/en/us/archive/disk_failures.pdf


On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Frank Steinmetzger <Warp_7@gmx.de> wrote:

> On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 11:38:34AM +0200, David Haller wrote:
>
> > >I bought my current internal laptop disk for Christmas 2008.  It's a
> Samsung
> > >HM500JI (with 500 GB).  Early on I noticed that, according to smartctl=
,
> its
> > >Load_Cycle_Count is increasing every 2 or 3 seconds.  I even asked
> Samsung
> > >about this, but they either couldn't give any clue or didn't want to,
> b/c the
> > >Serial Number is from Turkey, so not from the European market.
> > >
> > >Anyhoo... I just checked the values:
> >>[=85]
> > >But the load cycle count is at almost 12.3 million(!).  That just can'=
t
> be
> > >right.  I stopped believing that number a good while ago.
> >
> > As I said in another mail: laptop drives are built for frequent
> > unloading. Your number does seem a bit high though, that's about 1000
> > load cycles per hour...
>
> My Pa bought the same HDD model for his laptop a few months back. Last
> weekend
> I visited him and loaded a diag tool on his Windows. It showed 20 or 30.0=
00
> cycle counts. So I guess my model just has a bad firmware or summit like
> that.
> Perhaps that's why it was so cheap back then (only ~62=80 for a 500 GB dr=
ive
> by
> the end of 2008).
>
> Oh well, I'll just have to remember to do backups a bit more often.
> --
> Gru=DF | Greetings | Qapla'
> Please do not share anything from, with or about me with any Facebook
> service.
>
> A boss is a human just like everyone else, he just doesn=92t know.
>

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You guys might find this study from google interesting:=A0
<a href=3D"http://static.googleusercontent.com/external_content/untrusted_d=
lcp/research.google.com/en/us/archive/disk_failures.pdf">http://static.goog=
leusercontent.com/external_content/untrusted_dlcp/research.google.com/en/us=
/archive/disk_failures.pdf</a>=A0<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Frank Stein=
metzger <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Warp_7@gmx.de" target=3D"_b=
lank">Warp_7@gmx.de</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"=
>
<div class=3D"im">On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 11:38:34AM +0200, David Haller wr=
ote:<br>
<br>
&gt; &gt;I bought my current internal laptop disk for Christmas 2008. =A0It=
&#39;s a Samsung<br>
&gt; &gt;HM500JI (with 500 GB). =A0Early on I noticed that, according to sm=
artctl, its<br>
&gt; &gt;Load_Cycle_Count is increasing every 2 or 3 seconds. =A0I even ask=
ed Samsung<br>
&gt; &gt;about this, but they either couldn&#39;t give any clue or didn&#39=
;t want to, b/c the<br>
&gt; &gt;Serial Number is from Turkey, so not from the European market.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;Anyhoo... I just checked the values:<br>
</div>&gt;&gt;[=85]<br>
<div class=3D"im">&gt; &gt;But the load cycle count is at almost 12.3 milli=
on(!). =A0That just can&#39;t be<br>
&gt; &gt;right. =A0I stopped believing that number a good while ago.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; As I said in another mail: laptop drives are built for frequent<br>
&gt; unloading. Your number does seem a bit high though, that&#39;s about 1=
000<br>
&gt; load cycles per hour...<br>
<br>
</div>My Pa bought the same HDD model for his laptop a few months back. Las=
t weekend<br>
I visited him and loaded a diag tool on his Windows. It showed 20 or 30.000=
<br>
cycle counts. So I guess my model just has a bad firmware or summit like th=
at.<br>
Perhaps that&#39;s why it was so cheap back then (only ~62=80 for a 500 GB =
drive by<br>
the end of 2008).<br>
<br>
Oh well, I&#39;ll just have to remember to do backups a bit more often.<br>
<div class=3D"im">--<br>
Gru=DF | Greetings | Qapla&#39;<br>
Please do not share anything from, with or about me with any Facebook servi=
ce.<br>
<br>
</div>A boss is a human just like everyone else, he just doesn=92t know.<br=
>
</blockquote></div><br>

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