[gentoo-user] Re: Fresh gen too install - unsuccesful

[gentoo-user] Re: Fresh gen too install - unsuccesful

[German]

Just a follow up to my original question. I've installed grub on /dev/SDA literally following the quide. And I just realized why I made /dev/sda1 partition obviously designed for grub? Should I have been install grub into /dev/sda1? I also have uefi system and I think it matters. Thanks everyone for clarifications

German <gentgerman@gmail.com> wrote:

>Is anyone can advice on where to dig. It seems that grub isn't installed because I can't access it pressing ESC key and I return to bios. During installation there were no errors reported, the system installed grub just fine. Also grub.cfg found all my kernels and ramdisks? Thanks for any suggestion. What would you do?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fresh gen too install - unsuccesful

[wabenbau]

Am Samstag, 20.12.2014 um 03:57
schrieb German <gentgerman@gmail.com>:

> Just a follow up to my original question. I've installed grub
> on /dev/SDA literally following the quide. And I just realized why I

I think the MBR of your first drive (/dev/sda) is usually the right
place for grub if you only have one OS (gentoo) installed. 

> made /dev/sda1 partition obviously designed for grub? Should I have
> been install grub into /dev/sda1? I also have uefi system and I think
> it matters. Thanks everyone for clarifications

You really should share more information.

What version of grub do you have installed?
How do you have it installed (commands and parameters).
And of course you should post the config file.

How many drives do you have you attached to your computer? Sometimes a
connected USB-Stick or eSATA drive confuses the drive order so that
grub can't boot or even has been installed at another place than you
intended.

I don't have a clue about UEFI and I never used grub2. But I think
someone else could help you in that case, if you give enough infos.

Regards
wabe

> German <gentgerman@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >Is anyone can advice on where to dig. It seems that grub isn't
> >installed because I can't access it pressing ESC key and I return to
> >bios. During installation there were no errors reported, the system
> >installed grub just fine. Also grub.cfg found all my kernels and
> >ramdisks? Thanks for any suggestion. What would you do?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fresh gen too install - unsuccesful

[Tomas Mozes]

On 2014-12-20 00:57, German wrote:
> Just a follow up to my original question. I've installed grub on
> /dev/SDA literally following the quide. And I just realized why I made
> /dev/sda1 partition obviously designed for grub? Should I have been
> install grub into /dev/sda1? I also have uefi system and I think it
> matters. Thanks everyone for clarifications
> 
> German <gentgerman@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Is anyone can advice on where to dig. It seems that grub isn't 
>> installed because I can't access it pressing ESC key and I return to 
>> bios. During installation there were no errors reported, the system 
>> installed grub just fine. Also grub.cfg found all my kernels and 
>> ramdisks? Thanks for any suggestion. What would you do?

If you have your /dev/sda only for Gentoo, you would install grub into 
/dev/sda and have /dev/sda1 for /boot, for example:
/dev/sda1: /boot
/dev/sda2: /

The bios will load grub from mbr of /dev/sda and since you specify that 
grub can find it's stuff on /dev/sda1 (root), it can continue to find 
the kernel, etc.. Once found, it can load the kernel and mount root, 
because it's the kernel parameter.

For example:
root(hd0,0)
setup (hd0)

Check out 
http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/legacy/grub.html#Installing-GRUB-natively

Or for grub2:
http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GRUB2
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:X86/Installation/Bootloader
http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GRUB
http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GRUB2_Quick_Start

You can also have your /boot and / on the same partition.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fresh gen too install - unsuccesful

[Mick]

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On Saturday 20 Dec 2014 05:28:49 Tomas Mozes wrote:
> On 2014-12-20 00:57, German wrote:
> > Just a follow up to my original question. I've installed grub on
> > /dev/SDA literally following the quide. And I just realized why I made
> > /dev/sda1 partition obviously designed for grub? Should I have been
> > install grub into /dev/sda1? I also have uefi system and I think it
> > matters. Thanks everyone for clarifications
> > 
> > German <gentgerman@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Is anyone can advice on where to dig. It seems that grub isn't
> >> installed because I can't access it pressing ESC key and I return to
> >> bios. During installation there were no errors reported, the system
> >> installed grub just fine. Also grub.cfg found all my kernels and
> >> ramdisks? Thanks for any suggestion. What would you do?
> 
> If you have your /dev/sda only for Gentoo, you would install grub into
> /dev/sda and have /dev/sda1 for /boot, for example:
> /dev/sda1: /boot
> /dev/sda2: /
> 
> The bios will load grub from mbr of /dev/sda and since you specify that
> grub can find it's stuff on /dev/sda1 (root), it can continue to find
> the kernel, etc.. Once found, it can load the kernel and mount root,
> because it's the kernel parameter.
> 
> For example:
> root(hd0,0)
> setup (hd0)
> 
> Check out
> http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/legacy/grub.html#Installing-GRUB-na
> tively
> 
> Or for grub2:
> http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GRUB2
> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:X86/Installation/Bootloader
> http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GRUB
> http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GRUB2_Quick_Start
> 
> You can also have your /boot and / on the same partition.

All of this is good advice, but ONLY IF the MoBo has been configured to boot 
in CMS/Legacy_BIOS mode.  Otherwise, UEFI will bail out at boot time because 
it does neither read, nor use the MBR bootloader.

Depending on the boot options provided by the motherboard, the hard drive can 
be configured to boot in legacy-BIOS using an MBR, in UEFI mode using an ESP 
partition, or both depending on the BIOS selection at boot time.

-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fresh gen too install - unsuccesful

[German]

That's where I think the problem lies Mick. My system is uefi. Too bad that gen too officially doesn't support it. I just wish gentoo developers take a closer look at the issue and come out with uefi capable minimal installation CD and clear uefi installation documentation

Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Saturday 20 Dec 2014 05:28:49 Tomas Mozes wrote:
>> On 2014-12-20 00:57, German wrote:
>> > Just a follow up to my original question. I've installed grub on
>> > /dev/SDA literally following the quide. And I just realized why I made
>> > /dev/sda1 partition obviously designed for grub? Should I have been
>> > install grub into /dev/sda1? I also have uefi system and I think it
>> > matters. Thanks everyone for clarifications
>> > 
>> > German <gentgerman@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Is anyone can advice on where to dig. It seems that grub isn't
>> >> installed because I can't access it pressing ESC key and I return to
>> >> bios. During installation there were no errors reported, the system
>> >> installed grub just fine. Also grub.cfg found all my kernels and
>> >> ramdisks? Thanks for any suggestion. What would you do?
>> 
>> If you have your /dev/sda only for Gentoo, you would install grub into
>> /dev/sda and have /dev/sda1 for /boot, for example:
>> /dev/sda1: /boot
>> /dev/sda2: /
>> 
>> The bios will load grub from mbr of /dev/sda and since you specify that
>> grub can find it's stuff on /dev/sda1 (root), it can continue to find
>> the kernel, etc.. Once found, it can load the kernel and mount root,
>> because it's the kernel parameter.
>> 
>> For example:
>> root(hd0,0)
>> setup (hd0)
>> 
>> Check out
>> http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/legacy/grub.html#Installing-GRUB-na
>> tively
>> 
>> Or for grub2:
>> http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GRUB2
>> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:X86/Installation/Bootloader
>> http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GRUB
>> http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GRUB2_Quick_Start
>> 
>> You can also have your /boot and / on the same partition.
>
>All of this is good advice, but ONLY IF the MoBo has been configured to boot 
>in CMS/Legacy_BIOS mode.  Otherwise, UEFI will bail out at boot time because 
>it does neither read, nor use the MBR bootloader.
>
>Depending on the boot options provided by the motherboard, the hard drive can 
>be configured to boot in legacy-BIOS using an MBR, in UEFI mode using an ESP 
>partition, or both depending on the BIOS selection at boot time.
>
>-- 
>Regards,
>Mick

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fresh gen too install - unsuccesful

[Poison BL.]

On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 10:34 AM, German <gentgerman@gmail.com> wrote:
> That's where I think the problem lies Mick. My system is uefi. Too bad that gen too officially doesn't support it. I just wish gentoo developers take a closer look at the issue and come out with uefi capable minimal installation CD and clear uefi installation documentation

Well, while it's not covered in the official side of the install docs,
this wiki page was how I handled my system when I first ended up with
a UEFI laptop here (Win8 didn't even make it 12hrs for me ;) --

http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/UEFI_Gentoo_Quick_Install_Guide

It only has one minor issue, and that's the lack of mentioning first
and foremost that, to configure UEFI, you have to be UEFI booted
already (it does get around to noting it about the halfway mark). Any
UEFI compatible linux livecd/usb will work, though.

-- 
Poison [BLX]
Joshua M. Murphy

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fresh gen too install - unsuccesful

[Dale]

German wrote:
> That's where I think the problem lies Mick. My system is uefi. Too bad that gen too officially doesn't support it. I just wish gentoo developers take a closer look at the issue and come out with uefi capable minimal installation CD and clear uefi installation documentation
>
>

Does this help:

http://wiki.gentoo.org/index.php?search=uefi&title=Special%3ASearch&go=Go

I see a couple links there about it.  I'm pretty sure that the docs are
moving to the wiki.  Don't forget to search there for docs too. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fresh gen too install - unsuccesful

[Tom H]

On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 10:34 AM, German <gentgerman@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> That's where I think the problem lies Mick. My system is uefi. Too bad that
> gen too officially doesn't support it. I just wish gentoo developers take a closer
> look at the issue and come out with uefi capable minimal installation CD and
> clear uefi installation documentation

http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/UEFI_Gentoo_Quick_Install_Guide

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fresh gen too install - unsuccesful

[German]

Thanks Poison. SystemRescueCD is capable of booting in uefi so I can install gen too from it? I have heard good things about it

"Poison BL." <poisonbl@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 10:34 AM, German <gentgerman@gmail.com> wrote:
>> That's where I think the problem lies Mick. My system is uefi. Too bad that gen too officially doesn't support it. I just wish gentoo developers take a closer look at the issue and come out with uefi capable minimal installation CD and clear uefi installation documentation
>
>Well, while it's not covered in the official side of the install docs,
>this wiki page was how I handled my system when I first ended up with
>a UEFI laptop here (Win8 didn't even make it 12hrs for me ;) --
>
>http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/UEFI_Gentoo_Quick_Install_Guide
>
>It only has one minor issue, and that's the lack of mentioning first
>and foremost that, to configure UEFI, you have to be UEFI booted
>already (it does get around to noting it about the halfway mark). Any
>UEFI compatible linux livecd/usb will work, though.
>
>-- 
>Poison [BLX]
>Joshua M. Murphy
>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fresh gen too install - unsuccesful

[German]

Sorry Mick. I am on android tablet and have no clue how to modify message body

Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Saturday 20 Dec 2014 17:07:47 German wrote:
>> Thanks Poison. SystemRescueCD is capable of booting in uefi so I can
>> install gen too from it? I have heard good things about it
>
>Yes, this is what I am going to use to attempt to install Gentoo in UEFI.
>
>I have used it for years now to install Gentoo with a conventional BIOS.
>
>PS. Can you please avoid top-posting in this mailing list.  It breaks the 
>logical question & answer of the thread.
>
>-- 
>Regards,
>Mick

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fresh gen too install - unsuccesful

[Mick]

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On Saturday 20 Dec 2014 17:07:47 German wrote:
> Thanks Poison. SystemRescueCD is capable of booting in uefi so I can
> install gen too from it? I have heard good things about it

Yes, this is what I am going to use to attempt to install Gentoo in UEFI.

I have used it for years now to install Gentoo with a conventional BIOS.

PS. Can you please avoid top-posting in this mailing list.  It breaks the 
logical question & answer of the thread.

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Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fresh gen too install - unsuccesful

[Frank Steinmetzger]

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On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 09:40:26PM +0400, German wrote:
> Sorry Mick. I am on android tablet and have no clue how to modify message body

By using a proper e-mail client¹. *SCNR* Though I’d like to believe that even
the standard Android client should be able to not break message threads.

PS.: Our distro is called “Gentoo”, not “gen too”. It’s a cute kind of penguin.²

¹ K-9 comes to mind. Even though it displays the reply below when replying, it
  sends the mail with the reply below the quote if the relevant option is set.
² http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentoo_penguin

-- 
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Please do not share anything from, with or about me with any social network.

The Computer is the logical advancement of humankind:
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fresh gen too install - unsuccesful

[Mick]

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On Saturday 20 Dec 2014 18:20:44 Mick wrote:
> On Saturday 20 Dec 2014 17:07:47 German wrote:
> > Thanks Poison. SystemRescueCD is capable of booting in uefi so I can
> > install gen too from it? I have heard good things about it
> 
> Yes, this is what I am going to use to attempt to install Gentoo in UEFI.
> 
> I have used it for years now to install Gentoo with a conventional BIOS.

I spake too soon!  :-(

I just tried to boot my Asus MoBo A88XM-PLUS, after I disabled CMS and 
switched Secure Boot to other OS (as opposed to MS Windows), with 
sysrescuecd-4.4.1.

Unfortunately I can't get a console due to this error:

 error: no suitable mode found.
 Booting in blind mode


Any idea how to progress from here?  Is it possible with sysrescuecd?

-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fresh gen too install - unsuccesful

[German]

On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 11:30:49 +0000
Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Saturday 20 Dec 2014 18:20:44 Mick wrote:
> > On Saturday 20 Dec 2014 17:07:47 German wrote:
> > > Thanks Poison. SystemRescueCD is capable of booting in uefi so I can
> > > install gen too from it? I have heard good things about it
> > 
> > Yes, this is what I am going to use to attempt to install Gentoo in UEFI.
> > 
> > I have used it for years now to install Gentoo with a conventional BIOS.
> 
> I spake too soon!  :-(
> 
> I just tried to boot my Asus MoBo A88XM-PLUS, after I disabled CMS and 
> switched Secure Boot to other OS (as opposed to MS Windows), with 
> sysrescuecd-4.4.1.
> 
> Unfortunately I can't get a console due to this error:
> 
>  error: no suitable mode found.
>  Booting in blind mode
> 
> 
> Any idea how to progress from here?  Is it possible with sysrescuecd?

Mick, you are going right after my steps ( or I go where you go ). Just tried
to boot sysresc 4.4.1 with exactly the same error message. Duh. Looks like many people with the same
problem.


> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> Mick


-- 
German <gentgerman@gmail.com>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fresh gen too install - unsuccesful

[Mick]

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On Sunday 21 Dec 2014 11:44:04 German wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 11:30:49 +0000
> 
> Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:

> > I spake too soon!  :-(
> > 
> > I just tried to boot my Asus MoBo A88XM-PLUS, after I disabled CMS and
> > switched Secure Boot to other OS (as opposed to MS Windows), with
> > sysrescuecd-4.4.1.
> > 
> > Unfortunately I can't get a console due to this error:
> >  error: no suitable mode found.
> >  Booting in blind mode
> > 
> > Any idea how to progress from here?  Is it possible with sysrescuecd?
> 
> Mick, you are going right after my steps ( or I go where you go ). Just
> tried to boot sysresc 4.4.1 with exactly the same error message. Duh.
> Looks like many people with the same problem.

OK, this is what I did to progress with the installation.

1. Things that didn't work:

Editing the kernel options for nomodesetting (disable KMS option) did not work

Similarly, specifying forcevesa=1024x768 did not work.

2. What worked:

Typing blind after waiting for a while to make sure the CD had booted up to 
set up the root passwd and then to start sshd, allowed to access the PC over 
sshd and commence the installation.  Of course, this will only work if your PC 
is connected to the LAN.  I have no solution at the moment for air-gapped 
machines.

On the keyboard type blind:

passwd root
my_secret_root_passwd
my_secret_root_passwd
/etc/init.d/sshd restart

Then find the IP address of the new PC.  In my case arping and some guessing 
of the next IP that the router would have issued worked, but you can use arp-
scan, nmap, or some such tool, or even check your router's dhcp tables.

Then ssh root@<new PC's IP>, enter the passwd you set up above and you're good 
to go with the installation, following the hand book and the wiki suggestions 
for UEFI.

HTH.
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Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fresh gen too install - unsuccesful

[German]

On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 12:00:51 +0000
Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sunday 21 Dec 2014 11:44:04 German wrote:
> > On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 11:30:49 +0000
> > 
> > Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > > I spake too soon!  :-(
> > > 
> > > I just tried to boot my Asus MoBo A88XM-PLUS, after I disabled CMS and
> > > switched Secure Boot to other OS (as opposed to MS Windows), with
> > > sysrescuecd-4.4.1.
> > > 
> > > Unfortunately I can't get a console due to this error:
> > >  error: no suitable mode found.
> > >  Booting in blind mode
> > > 
> > > Any idea how to progress from here?  Is it possible with sysrescuecd?
> > 
> > Mick, you are going right after my steps ( or I go where you go ). Just
> > tried to boot sysresc 4.4.1 with exactly the same error message. Duh.
> > Looks like many people with the same problem.
> 
> OK, this is what I did to progress with the installation.
> 
> 1. Things that didn't work:
> 
> Editing the kernel options for nomodesetting (disable KMS option) did not work
> 
> Similarly, specifying forcevesa=1024x768 did not work.
> 
> 2. What worked:
> 
> Typing blind after waiting for a while to make sure the CD had booted up to 
> set up the root passwd and then to start sshd, allowed to access the PC over 
> sshd and commence the installation.  Of course, this will only work if your PC 
> is connected to the LAN.  I have no solution at the moment for air-gapped 
> machines.
> 
> On the keyboard type blind:
> 
> passwd root
> my_secret_root_passwd
> my_secret_root_passwd
> /etc/init.d/sshd restart
> 
> Then find the IP address of the new PC.  In my case arping and some guessing 
> of the next IP that the router would have issued worked, but you can use arp-
> scan, nmap, or some such tool, or even check your router's dhcp tables.
> 
> Then ssh root@<new PC's IP>, enter the passwd you set up above and you're good 
> to go with the installation, following the hand book and the wiki suggestions 
> for UEFI.

Thanks for suggestion, Mick. Unfortunately I am not on a network and that is only PC I have at the moment.
Do you know if Knoppix allows UEFI boot?

> 
> HTH.
> -- 
> Regards,
> Mick


-- 
German <gentgerman@gmail.com>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fresh gen too install - unsuccesful

[Mick]

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On Sunday 21 Dec 2014 12:31:11 German wrote:

> Thanks for suggestion, Mick. Unfortunately I am not on a network and that
> is only PC I have at the moment. Do you know if Knoppix allows UEFI boot?

I have not used Knoppix for some years now so I don't know if it will work.  
Something else to try, is to type c when the sysrescuecd boot list comes up on 
the screen and then use the grub command line that comes up to type the 
appropriate grub2 commands to boot the LiveCD with.

I have not looked into the GRUB2 commands appropriate for UEFI booting, but 
the grub documentation and Google should help on this occasion.  BTW, if you 
are using a USB stick to boot sysrescue with, you should be able to modify it 
as described on the sysrescue website.  You should be able to include the 
correct grub configuration for EFI booting in it.

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Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fresh gen too install - unsuccesful

[J. Roeleveld]

On 21 December 2014 12:30:49 CET, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Saturday 20 Dec 2014 18:20:44 Mick wrote:
>> On Saturday 20 Dec 2014 17:07:47 German wrote:
>> > Thanks Poison. SystemRescueCD is capable of booting in uefi so I
>can
>> > install gen too from it? I have heard good things about it
>> 
>> Yes, this is what I am going to use to attempt to install Gentoo in
>UEFI.
>> 
>> I have used it for years now to install Gentoo with a conventional
>BIOS.
>
>I spake too soon!  :-(
>
>I just tried to boot my Asus MoBo A88XM-PLUS, after I disabled CMS and 
>switched Secure Boot to other OS (as opposed to MS Windows), with 
>sysrescuecd-4.4.1.
>
>Unfortunately I can't get a console due to this error:
>
> error: no suitable mode found.
> Booting in blind mode
>
>
>Any idea how to progress from here?  Is it possible with sysrescuecd?

What is CMS?
I think it's a compatibility module.

Without it, only the EFI Console will work.

--
Joost 
-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fresh gen too install - unsuccesful

[Todd Goodman]

* German <gentgerman@gmail.com> [141221 07:31]:
[..SNIP..]
> Thanks for suggestion, Mick. Unfortunately I am not on a network and that is only PC I have at the moment.
> Do you know if Knoppix allows UEFI boot?

I've used Fedora and Linux Mint install disks for UEFI booting (I don't
know about Knoppix.)

Todd

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fresh gen too install - unsuccesful

[German]

On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 11:55:06 -0500
Todd Goodman <tsg@bonedaddy.net> wrote:

> * German <gentgerman@gmail.com> [141221 07:31]:
> [..SNIP..]
> > Thanks for suggestion, Mick. Unfortunately I am not on a network and that is only PC I have at the moment.
> > Do you know if Knoppix allows UEFI boot?
> 
> I've used Fedora and Linux Mint install disks for UEFI booting (I don't
> know about Knoppix.)
> 
> Todd
> 

Good to know. Thanks


-- 
German <gentgerman@gmail.com>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fresh gen too install - unsuccesful

[Tom H]

On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 6:30 AM, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I just tried to boot my Asus MoBo A88XM-PLUS, after I disabled CMS and
> switched Secure Boot to other OS (as opposed to MS Windows), with
> sysrescuecd-4.4.1.
>
> Unfortunately I can't get a console due to this error:
>
>  error: no suitable mode found.
>  Booting in blind mode

How about booting without Secure Boot?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fresh gen too install - unsuccesful

[German]

On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 12:17:19 -0500
Tom H <tomh0665@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 6:30 AM, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I just tried to boot my Asus MoBo A88XM-PLUS, after I disabled CMS and
> > switched Secure Boot to other OS (as opposed to MS Windows), with
> > sysrescuecd-4.4.1.
> >
> > Unfortunately I can't get a console due to this error:
> >
> >  error: no suitable mode found.
> >  Booting in blind mode
> 
> How about booting without Secure Boot?

I am booting without secure boot and get the same error
> 


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fresh gen too install - unsuccesful

[German]

On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 11:55:06 -0500
Todd Goodman <tsg@bonedaddy.net> wrote:

> * German <gentgerman@gmail.com> [141221 07:31]:
> [..SNIP..]
> > Thanks for suggestion, Mick. Unfortunately I am not on a network and that is only PC I have at the moment.
> > Do you know if Knoppix allows UEFI boot?
> 
> I've used Fedora and Linux Mint install disks for UEFI booting (I don't
> know about Knoppix.)
> 
> Todd
> 

BTW Todd, does Mint allow to boot only in console mode, i.e. without X and DE?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fresh gen too install - unsuccesful

[Todd Goodman]

* German <gentgerman@gmail.com> [141221 13:01]:
> On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 11:55:06 -0500
> Todd Goodman <tsg@bonedaddy.net> wrote:
> 
> > * German <gentgerman@gmail.com> [141221 07:31]:
> > [..SNIP..]
> > > Thanks for suggestion, Mick. Unfortunately I am not on a network and that is only PC I have at the moment.
> > > Do you know if Knoppix allows UEFI boot?
> > 
> > I've used Fedora and Linux Mint install disks for UEFI booting (I don't
> > know about Knoppix.)
> > 
> > Todd
> > 
> 
> BTW Todd, does Mint allow to boot only in console mode, i.e. without X and DE?
> 
> -- 
> German <gentgerman@gmail.com>

I'm sure there's a way to do so but I've always just let it boot all the way
up and then use a terminal.

I usually use a Fedora image if I want UEFI though just out of habit.

Todd

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fresh gen too install - unsuccesful

[Tom H]

On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 12:36 PM, German <gentgerman@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 12:17:19 -0500
> Tom H <tomh0665@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 6:30 AM, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I just tried to boot my Asus MoBo A88XM-PLUS, after I disabled CMS and
>>> switched Secure Boot to other OS (as opposed to MS Windows), with
>>> sysrescuecd-4.4.1.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately I can't get a console due to this error:
>>>
>>>  error: no suitable mode found.
>>>  Booting in blind mode
>>
>> How about booting without Secure Boot?
>
> I am booting without secure boot and get the same error

I'm sorry. I saw "secure boot" and assumed that you were trying to
boot from an unsigned kernel.

Your error message above looks like a grub error. Does your grub.cfg
load two efi_<something> video modules?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fresh gen too install - unsuccesful

[Tom H]

On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 1:01 PM, German <gentgerman@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> BTW Todd, does Mint allow to boot only in console mode, i.e. without X and DE?

If Mint uses Ubuntu's ubiquity installer, you can hit F6 then Esc to
get to the kernel cmdline when you're at the screen where you choose
to try or install.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fresh gen too install - unsuccesful

[Mick]

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On Thursday 25 Dec 2014 09:20:15 Tom H wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 12:36 PM, German <gentgerman@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 12:17:19 -0500
> > 
> > Tom H <tomh0665@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 6:30 AM, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> I just tried to boot my Asus MoBo A88XM-PLUS, after I disabled CMS and
> >>> switched Secure Boot to other OS (as opposed to MS Windows), with
> >>> sysrescuecd-4.4.1.
> >>> 
> >>> Unfortunately I can't get a console due to this error:
> >>>  error: no suitable mode found.
> >>>  Booting in blind mode
> >> 
> >> How about booting without Secure Boot?
> > 
> > I am booting without secure boot and get the same error
> 
> I'm sorry. I saw "secure boot" and assumed that you were trying to
> boot from an unsigned kernel.
> 
> Your error message above looks like a grub error. Does your grub.cfg
> load two efi_<something> video modules?

There is no grub on the PC, and the sysrescue LiveCD uses isolinux from what I 
recall.  For some reason when booting in EFI mode, sysrescueCD can't find a 
suitable mode for my LCD monitor.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fresh gen too install - unsuccesful

[Tom H]

On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 4:42 AM, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday 25 Dec 2014 09:20:15 Tom H wrote:
>> On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 12:36 PM, German <gentgerman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 12:17:19 -0500
>>> Tom H <tomh0665@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 6:30 AM, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I just tried to boot my Asus MoBo A88XM-PLUS, after I disabled CMS and
>>>>> switched Secure Boot to other OS (as opposed to MS Windows), with
>>>>> sysrescuecd-4.4.1.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately I can't get a console due to this error:
>>>>> error: no suitable mode found.
>>>>> Booting in blind mode
>>>>
>>>> How about booting without Secure Boot?
>>>
>>> I am booting without secure boot and get the same error
>>
>> I'm sorry. I saw "secure boot" and assumed that you were trying to
>> boot from an unsigned kernel.
>>
>> Your error message above looks like a grub error. Does your grub.cfg
>> load two efi_<something> video modules?
>
> There is no grub on the PC, and the sysrescue LiveCD uses isolinux from what I
> recall. For some reason when booting in EFI mode, sysrescueCD can't find a
> suitable mode for my LCD monitor.

I was answering gentgerman@gmail.com and I thought that he/she was
booting from an HD.

I've installed Linux a dozen times on efi laptops (Gentoo once). I've
used live CDs on all of these laptops and I've used grub and
efibootmgr for all the installs - and gummiboot for some - and I've
only hit this error once, on an install, because I was messing around
with grub.cfg and didn't load efi_gop.mod and efi_uga.mod. I don't
know how the other boot loaders/managers handle video but AFAIK none
of them have modules so it must be built-in.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fresh gen too install - unsuccesful

[Neil Bothwick]

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On 25 December 2014 09:42:16 GMT+00:00, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday 25 Dec 2014 09:20:15 Tom H wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 12:36 PM, German <gentgerman@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 12:17:19 -0500
> > > 
> > > Tom H <tomh0665@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 6:30 AM, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>> I just tried to boot my Asus MoBo A88XM-PLUS, after I disabled
> CMS and
> > >>> switched Secure Boot to other OS (as opposed to MS Windows),
> with
> > >>> sysrescuecd-4.4.1.
> > >>> 
> > >>> Unfortunately I can't get a console due to this error:
> > >>>  error: no suitable mode found.
> > >>>  Booting in blind mode
> > >> 
> > >> How about booting without Secure Boot?
> > > 
> > > I am booting without secure boot and get the same error
> > 
> > I'm sorry. I saw "secure boot" and assumed that you were trying to
> > boot from an unsigned kernel.
> > 
> > Your error message above looks like a grub error. Does your grub.cfg
> > load two efi_<something> video modules?
> 
> There is no grub on the PC, and the sysrescue LiveCD uses isolinux
> from what I 
> recall.  For some reason when booting in EFI mode, sysrescueCD can't
> find a 
> suitable mode for my LCD monitor.
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> Mick

I think sysrescd uses GRUB for UEFI booting. I have successfully booted and installed UEFI systems from sysrescd, but not 4.4.1. Have yotried another version? u
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fresh gen too install - unsuccesful

[Mick]

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On Friday 26 Dec 2014 00:44:50 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On 25 December 2014 09:42:16 GMT+00:00, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> 
wrote:
> > On Thursday 25 Dec 2014 09:20:15 Tom H wrote:
> > > On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 12:36 PM, German <gentgerman@gmail.com>
> > 
> > wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 12:17:19 -0500
> > > > 
> > > > Tom H <tomh0665@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 6:30 AM, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com>
> > 
> > wrote:
> > > >>> I just tried to boot my Asus MoBo A88XM-PLUS, after I disabled
> > 
> > CMS and
> > 
> > > >>> switched Secure Boot to other OS (as opposed to MS Windows),
> > 
> > with
> > 
> > > >>> sysrescuecd-4.4.1.
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> Unfortunately I can't get a console due to this error:
> > > >>>  error: no suitable mode found.
> > > >>>  Booting in blind mode
> > > >> 
> > > >> How about booting without Secure Boot?
> > > > 
> > > > I am booting without secure boot and get the same error
> > > 
> > > I'm sorry. I saw "secure boot" and assumed that you were trying to
> > > boot from an unsigned kernel.
> > > 
> > > Your error message above looks like a grub error. Does your grub.cfg
> > > load two efi_<something> video modules?
> > 
> > There is no grub on the PC, and the sysrescue LiveCD uses isolinux
> > from what I
> > recall.  For some reason when booting in EFI mode, sysrescueCD can't
> > find a
> > suitable mode for my LCD monitor.
> 
> I think sysrescd uses GRUB for UEFI booting. I have successfully booted and
> installed UEFI systems from sysrescd, but not 4.4.1. Have yotried another
> version? u

Thanks Neil, I didn't know this.  I managed to complete my installation 
because I had ethernet access to the box, but German (the OP) was not able to.  
Perhaps he should try an older version, or rebuild the sysrescuecd with the 
appropriate Grub options to boot in EFI with the relevant Grub video 
mode/drivers.

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