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From: Tom H <tomh0665@gmail.com>
To: Gentoo User <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 07:52:01 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOdo=SzRBQe1uM-SD6DQ3XeK9R=btAQJ28byMA_w5sdXbesqoQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55DF97D8.1070001@comcast.net>

On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 7:06 PM, Michel Catudal <mcatudal@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> The language toward us is not much nicer. There is some arrogance from the
> other side of the issue.
> We've been fighting this for years. It is a lie to say that it cannot
> install on a partition. What makes it not install is the installer that
> refuses to install it.
> One one install I was able to do this (with Fedora) by passing an argument
> to force it to install on the partition.
>
> As another gentoo user says so well, it is them wanting to be the only
> bootloader, so Microsoft.
>
> We want to be free from Microsoft, not just replace a dictator with another
> one.
>
> You may love it but there are many of us who hate it with a passion.
>
> The bottom line is that we have to use grub 1 or lilo until grub 2 is fixed
> or forked by someone who is interested to fix it.

Whether it's a lie or not, the fact is that it isn't something that
the grub developers want to deal with.

The ext4 developer called the grub2 developers paranoid and
emotionally insecure a few years ago when this was brought to him but
no one can force them to re-add to grub2 what they consider a
misfeature of grub1.


  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-28 11:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-25 18:44 [gentoo-user] keeping grub 1 James
2015-08-25 19:01 ` Florian Gamböck
2015-08-25 19:26   ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-08-25 19:46 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-08-25 21:20 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-08-26  0:39   ` [gentoo-user] " James
2015-08-26  1:46     ` Dale
2015-08-26  8:21       ` Neil Bothwick
2015-08-26 15:10 ` [gentoo-user] Grub1: Cant ? " James
2015-08-26 15:26   ` Alec Ten Harmsel
2015-08-26 15:48     ` [gentoo-user] " James
2015-08-26 15:59       ` Alec Ten Harmsel
2015-08-26 16:20         ` James
2015-08-26 17:55         ` Jeremi Piotrowski
2015-08-26 16:55       ` Grant Edwards
2015-08-26 17:37   ` [gentoo-user] " Fernando Rodriguez
2015-08-26 22:27     ` Michel Catudal
2015-08-26 23:41       ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-08-28 11:20         ` Tom H
2015-08-27 12:49       ` Mike Gilbert
2015-08-27 13:11         ` Peter Humphrey
2015-08-28 11:22           ` Tom H
2015-08-28 11:41             ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-27 14:19         ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2015-08-27 16:34           ` Mike Gilbert
2015-08-27 16:47           ` James
2015-08-27 19:30             ` Grant Edwards
2015-08-27 19:44               ` Mick
2015-08-27 20:03                 ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-08-27 22:06                   ` Mick
2015-08-27 22:37                     ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-08-27 22:47                     ` Jeremi Piotrowski
2015-08-28 11:35                   ` Tom H
2015-08-27 19:53             ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-08-27 17:17           ` Neil Bothwick
2015-08-27 23:05             ` Jeremi Piotrowski
2015-08-28  1:06               ` Grant Edwards
2015-08-28 11:41               ` Tom H
2015-08-28 11:24           ` Tom H
2015-08-29 16:17             ` Michel Catudal
2015-08-29 16:38               ` Alan McKinnon
2015-08-29 16:53               ` Terry Z.
2015-08-29 16:57               ` Mike Gilbert
2015-08-29 17:12                 ` Michel Catudal
2015-08-27 16:50         ` [gentoo-user] " mcatudal
2015-08-27 17:16           ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-08-27 23:06             ` Michel Catudal
2015-08-28 11:52               ` Tom H [this message]
2015-08-27 17:18           ` Neil Bothwick
2015-08-27 19:18           ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-08-27 23:36             ` Michel Catudal
2015-08-28  0:31               ` Jeremi Piotrowski
2015-08-28  1:25                 ` Michel Catudal
2015-08-28  1:50                   ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-28  2:03                     ` Michel Catudal
2015-08-28  2:14                       ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-28  8:09                       ` Neil Bothwick
2015-08-28  3:36                   ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-08-28 20:08                     ` Michel Catudal
2015-08-28 20:27                       ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-28 20:42                       ` Jeremi Piotrowski
2015-08-28 11:55               ` Tom H
2015-08-29 16:29                 ` Michel Catudal
2015-08-28 11:28           ` Tom H
2015-08-28 20:23           ` Terry Z.
2015-08-27 18:23         ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-08-27 18:31           ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-08-27 19:02             ` Mick
2015-08-27 19:34               ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2015-08-28  9:24                 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-08-29  3:46                   ` Grant Edwards
2015-08-29  9:41                     ` Neil Bothwick
2015-08-29 16:00                   ` Michel Catudal
2015-08-29 20:56                     ` Neil Bothwick
2015-08-29 21:48                       ` Michel Catudal
2015-08-29 22:14                   ` »Q«
2015-08-27 23:17           ` [gentoo-user] " Michel Catudal
2015-08-27 23:57             ` Neil Bothwick

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