From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B787F139085 for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2016 09:52:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C099B234049; Thu, 22 Dec 2016 09:52:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wm0-x242.google.com (mail-wm0-x242.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::242]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 45ECE21C091 for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2016 09:52:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wm0-x242.google.com with SMTP id u144so35114418wmu.0 for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2016 01:52:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=V6MVVx9odQRirAkZ8cGzP7NlSRqKtym55bnQgVDdiJ0=; b=MY7DYfkdPeTm/ix8rTpo8lIKuP/TPeZtEYNW8RYuwGnHufmkAoSrIajJmG+Y0Zna3/ mQ0KfRbo5JJY1abNoCY9N2QopkvzjjYDvvHvv2K/r8P9VFvnrn+QFr5gy/BOpBsXlmKP mraOnp35AK1k/cWv5BfWKF7l4DstvM8y9sO7oTw59h1U2aCHNz2h6ZkVR90Ba8q0wA6U a3JnpmgvbJ5zACLHzZ8HP/l5Tg9tJkhhBMJxa857cmBiE7XY0NI5JQH3YUQycfDAJA6I IPAT0Ff61VNVU5IKUPdoNkoi1M5dRo1U0q7jRAnLjwAJIHFV6MqUEMuze5foI6NEmW1h 1MwA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=V6MVVx9odQRirAkZ8cGzP7NlSRqKtym55bnQgVDdiJ0=; b=EOUD/VphCbpNzX7Q414nnfNfxB/Q9zi76mU/cd+WGWRMj604BJGil9M1/SAkcUN+Ab w+0GS1DgMndwSWUL44zFJyRkUcNVwr/SmJgZnKLhmaYxHaF7QSpR0nt3Af+ag1g0vhHN LsalMCQuQD2AF9R9AnzSGltf6V24lnBuffRz3cNhphmNSq+lQnBXKfZzSkCFXM9vYJzr qqW1wMBu6kLTvBqslMcdqsnoQvdVf2pUSgX9qwA3mjuvmnfcVB9kdo23pFKor+3t6J+I HE0+8+D8CqACJFxWvbjUmwd0ZzHoaUz4f0H+AmyywyeRJHkiVqiISa0zTBWUlAfdMN7H GWaw== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXKwybst6yW1pGmI5p7x+CR3PDkMeBOdf0XR26lz0IX3LAmDai4bvuLPkC+eUJBb0HofMH0lJFhDfd9sew== X-Received: by 10.28.161.67 with SMTP id k64mr11077051wme.69.1482400362101; Thu, 22 Dec 2016 01:52:42 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.14.73 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Dec 2016 01:52:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20161222085646.414fa0e4@digimed.co.uk> References: <20161015182743.GB4541@solfire> <20161216165118.GA26704@g0n.xdwgrp> <20161217055520.GA13608@waltdnes.org> <87pokn23ai.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> <4c7138ac-cbd2-c60f-2a86-bb7e41e9d6fb@gmail.com> <87r353zmfs.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> <13e62428-6ad9-2efa-0f0c-84c4cd7fd0ac@andrejro.de> <87shpjxod9.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> <2748e68f-59c1-e7f3-eec4-858773acbdb9@andrejro.de> <3bf0f4ef-79d1-401b-cdd3-948c13f12f2a@baums-on-web.de> <20161220215558.6d650233@digimed.co.uk> <87y3zauu83.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> <20161221002744.17f5107e@digimed.co.uk> <871sx1t0lu.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> <20161221234653.24de1d1c@digimed.co.uk> <87inqcr6vt.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> <20161222085646.414fa0e4@digimed.co.uk> From: Tom H Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2016 04:52:41 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No To: Gentoo User Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 87773cce-736c-4b96-926e-7d5c855c0825 X-Archives-Hash: 230182c2e16969cdc8cdea536cc750a3 On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 3:56 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 04:15:50 +0100, lee wrote: >> >> The perceived advantage lies in being able to refer to network ports >> in a more reliable way, and I don't see how using unrecognisable >> names instead of recognisable ones would make anything easier. > > See above re automation. It doesn't really matter whether you see the > need or not. If you don't have the need, don't use it, they are an > option for those who do want them. All of this whining about predictable NIC names would be more or less OK if there wasn't an easy way to override them in "/{lib,etc}/systemd/network/" (even on a non-systemd system, see [1]) or in "/etc/udev/rules.d/"! [1] There's no need to learn/use the udev rules syntax. I use the following in "/etc/systemd/network/" on a Debian 8 system with sysvinit-as-pid1: [Match] MACAddress=can't_be_bothered_to_look_it_up [Link] Name=en0