From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6220B138BD3 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2014 01:54:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 717A0E0913; Mon, 3 Nov 2014 01:54:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-f41.google.com (mail-la0-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C2D81E08F3 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2014 01:54:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f41.google.com with SMTP id s18so4162690lam.14 for ; Sun, 02 Nov 2014 17:54:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=1/K3Eh3eWe8Lwbm/gY1eb8qWW6BazlPJbBoT0QDEezk=; b=hp7cj0JRIsP/7VDUvSTIrSD2rLxAel2VFxsD7httHqtmOWEiAOcOD3t10Rs1Q54tEv 9NHFKE2elEINdSBcyB93+vnSBQuHye8k1l+We0kw/VQymzTnAdTScaJRCUH9hDiVa+5w L6RubGkbUH9KqOd+zNZDe0ehv/AcqXa3jBTJcfiwNLynBv5GlvPLn9fuFDo7/ljmAVFV 817oLlh3kK6idAOxp2dW9Q/BPAzLmp609wU5wdCJ0YxbPMtTlVOy4P6bGuykOqC9EayA S9mM+WfEqJd15PWv9ChSwoS00NZBh4zRHKfylJS6EPvS0Oa48dd/4cW3E/G+dzPcxOas sw+A== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.198.199 with SMTP id je7mr17474317lac.25.1414979662059; Sun, 02 Nov 2014 17:54:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.22.168 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Nov 2014 17:54:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1721456.cxhDToZz1Z@andromeda> <5707050.LYlfBLMIFp@andromeda> <54543167.8020705@alectenharmsel.com> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 20:54:21 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alternative kernels From: Tom H To: Gentoo User Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 1484fa4f-1831-470e-9aaa-fbd5b471705f X-Archives-Hash: 18df445db290b62cf7ff2be12da18a2a On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 5:47 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 9:03 PM, Alec Ten Harmsel > wrote: >> >> You guys should check out the ELK stack: >> http://www.elasticsearch.org/overview/ >> >> Basically, transform logs to JSON with logstash, throw the JSON into >> elastic search, and make plots with Kibana. We use it at work; it's >> absolutely fantastic. > > Hmm, as far as I can tell they don't actually have a parser for > journal logs yet. With systemd the logs are already available in > JSON, though I imagine it would be trivial to transform that to a > different-looking JSON if necessary. > > I think it just reflects the fact that everybody is playing catch-up. > Despite originating at Red Hat I suspect that the vast majority of > those running systemd right now are the sorts of folks who don't run > enterprise log monitoring suites. So, the pressure just isn't there > yet to get all that stuff built. I suspect that "full" journald adoption and tweaking will come from small(er), more nimble, less conservative organizations. We'll be rolling out RHEL7 next year and we'll have "Storage=volatile"; we've asked former colleagues at other banks and they've said that they're planning the same.