From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-user+bounces-174895-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0EBBF139085 for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 09:41:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6D944E0C15; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 09:40:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wm0-x22a.google.com (mail-wm0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D51E3E0BDE for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 09:40:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wm0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id a197so298812703wmd.0 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 01:40:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=/VCGi8wa36SK2Jv5GJQ5ZGUA+RdjApVuf3urjBomVhA=; b=hSCe91eNRRe45HDcIYUs1bulPRyQSB3RuU0XLS5VytP1woFgwU2fRCqQ+s88VAvvOH KcBuM80L76l1r+fQ09O+ZvphzYfuEeoVXN50sHlLXTCq4GBPg/ownhTyg6/R9Oc2+iTy 4M3B0pdpra+AEAYP785T/7QKPMNsJX1vRe7PC0XaFVVy9UJGUiBrPTW0APOgYurBgbPB /NwMBKXdyLPaG+EpmdvMcQjKqXdohCtPczWYqRcF11l2xsISUqMLhMGMUmRhehLw5F/t ag4hkBD0upuBNMOcTN4WzddiQEZFPH8aFzUKU2PKVKEQPwsVwC1sJiQhKt+CV+Uu3PS/ D3bA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=/VCGi8wa36SK2Jv5GJQ5ZGUA+RdjApVuf3urjBomVhA=; b=JuKjmgNdexBAgUH4fcTziC52ZlAg4XGG3dBLrCd4Vg/If7ZPm5sMac9Kl9XIebvknq YbGvgKt8a9aXfFOR9e4fZIIgyRkv12xRR/CtczNCbr7Tpa8xcD+jwsPIBjGFLNsJRZ86 dvUmx2dm/GzUwXGcGg/Lx2ZdLkRJR0AX6HWjjoFr0YKNIq2SLE7MDWDmyupUxJRpBf3p 2kGDUB6Q3Pakdi1s48jUKNaRb9OQXCLqBhlovgzjU9MvYj1GTiGj3eGDt9E7xF4w12wd UtPAlhHz0s83bRd3UyziVol8WOQrTgTta/iV4KrLvLHxc9W/o/RYhK/0F/tDKxU3cnMq mhPQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXKPsFj4buhD1ITxnXsLolMY2JR0/5REunWccVmuEUOg6Rr3tKr5sTZSmRq9+0ds6cr5NLFF17qdnYs+fg== X-Received: by 10.28.23.16 with SMTP id 16mr39679767wmx.134.1483004446546; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 01:40:46 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.14.73 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 01:40:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87fulak06w.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> References: <20161015182743.GB4541@solfire> <20161216101951.GA29887@g0n.xdwgrp> <CAGfcS_k+toE5DiWMPZrbnFqnJwVuQQ73B-rAmYeGTeyE-WKzBQ@mail.gmail.com> <20161216131315.GA4052@g0n.xdwgrp> <CAGfcS_=LvKf+pbq1Pfs_RfNUB76yFHz3Dv-FK0ZdFAMt_mAbYQ@mail.gmail.com> <20161216165118.GA26704@g0n.xdwgrp> <CAGfcS_=UDb35V==i5Ma3K6pNBBSyU0Ecp7_u97ZOYSfj-AwnqQ@mail.gmail.com> <20161217055520.GA13608@waltdnes.org> <87pokn23ai.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> <4c7138ac-cbd2-c60f-2a86-bb7e41e9d6fb@gmail.com> <CAOdo=SxRyOiitLz9Topp0YqZ3gERqmy_7FrF8Jwjy7EdARMhtQ@mail.gmail.com> <877f6qoz9t.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> <CAOdo=SyeRxVS8O+nY87F5tekf_RUOkowb8PLEVdDSjGJrJhGVw@mail.gmail.com> <87fulak06w.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> From: Tom H <tomh0665@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 04:40:45 -0500 Message-ID: <CAOdo=SxXD_thcO9aZ0+7hoFBVPFz4B0uKG4rfj4QMEsKtpRnkw@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No To: Gentoo User <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 1cdf3c57-d219-4663-8496-2d41e5fe0d95 X-Archives-Hash: 3c1f638cadbc7836e00091a20bdbde7d On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 1:35 PM, lee <lee@yagibdah.de> wrote: > Tom H <tomh0665@gmail.com> writes: >> On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 9:07 PM, lee <lee@yagibdah.de> wrote: >>> >>> How is that more reliable? >> >> It's more reliable than using the kernel's names because the names >> won't change UNLESS there's kernel/driver/firmware change for that >> NIC. I doubt that these changes occur that often. Perhaps someone else >> knows. > > What happens more often: That a network card is replaced with a > different one or that the software changes? In my experience the former. But it's just my experience... I've also not come across a kernel//driver/firmware change on a system.