From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AB5E1389E2 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 14:21:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 31FF4E08BB; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 14:21:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-f53.google.com (mail-la0-f53.google.com [209.85.215.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D96C0E08A6 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 14:21:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f53.google.com with SMTP id gm9so4169742lab.40 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 06:21:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pOgiLsZ49sYpvLMW2hpb5EMawIpFpXRbhOAfcp2iEjs=; b=cVj/gpJ/WiE8QWyq2aZK+IiEAPonRnl4+vFAUELaEqfhczeoX4jsFYOY+ksV+fggMJ YLUTVQxyu4HQ+vSnSVl1a8goMHj2gk2Pu4Bf5W4+tMdAQLIafwDoqqB9yVBzfU7r+J23 JLyH22cqVk16En6zTRB51Q2hev/fLeeT6NeF/GAl5AOu+ZypZev9TYoLbKI1fFD3kNnU LBwf1SExHxkbTIMiU5ifuy+ntTaD90nZ5wT8dkpY4Buv2AzdEg5fUS4MVLikKZzeLebQ EAnTN+w+Qg65jMFYC7+gdN/Wnpr6b8bWbJtwCsb3aS3uojxio2oVOOy6VfYSo/3BqbaH UbCA== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.199.227 with SMTP id jn3mr39184691lbc.86.1417098069073; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 06:21:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.47.240 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Nov 2014 06:21:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <547242ED.3060709@libertytrek.org> References: <546EE70C.2050506@yourstruly.sx> <54721CEC.1020902@libertytrek.org> <5472424D.1070204@libertytrek.org> <547242ED.3060709@libertytrek.org> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 09:21:08 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now From: Tom H To: Gentoo User Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 698fa186-e23f-49b1-8f74-83a9afdeda38 X-Archives-Hash: 50b92ffdd8b5a974d8680abe93d9743c On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Tanstaafl wrot= e: > On 11/23/2014 1:07 PM, Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s w= rote: >> >> So, don't be surprised if FreeBSD develops something *really* similar >> (along the lines of the second bullet) to systemd in the future > > Doesn't matter because: > > a) it won't be systemd > (with all of its warts) > > b) it won't be written by Lennart and company > (so won't have any of that baggage either) I'm a happy sysvinit+sysvrc, upstart, sysvinit+openrc, and systemd user. As far as an init system brings up the OS, starts the daemons that I want, and allows me to troubleshoot failures, I couldn't care less what init system's controlling boot. I therefore find anti-systemd posts like this one puzzling, and even surreal, since the people making them are theoretically technical, and therefore logical. Lennart made some design choices that I wish that he hadn't made but I'm not losing any sleep over this; and I don't understand why anyone else should.