From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28FF81387CA for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:21:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4AF33E0875; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:21:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-f52.google.com (mail-la0-f52.google.com [209.85.215.52]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F1EE1E0855 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:21:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f52.google.com with SMTP id hz20so2890585lab.25 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 07:21:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=I8I5IwjAKyqv+XFfzC0V8Ma2Hjbf4Gxr7v6oUYlQpvw=; b=mjbUsr4MqltLNz4ALfzahQ93BJRhzJT6rw8+/N2UV5LBnZ7VJQBiJ6LPdcBJvfygZM VZlbl8YaWgKzf6W1V9KvvDhCOuskblkkoypK8nawpr5XeoPyQSpKe+4NI5KYxckTGfdW 3Vfy9thc4V9kyzn5SGbXg2VHCbHjs80wMWDlKImita22YyzhrzvmwFV7Gr41DAffSkeb sELh82gsILoDQwBXgRi6N1TELNjWREFNxlsZKW6cHAhHvl8BG41KUcrn00hflZCjb5sp HLhSAG8bf32ok/Lt50hoXttyw6UFpoD+C5jkLaujP4WiaHZq3dDfaV96tyn6vPr3E3R4 1Xxw== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.116.68 with SMTP id ju4mr1966348lab.13.1413469281333; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 07:21:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.22.168 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 07:21:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 10:21:21 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Six non-Gentoo installs From: Tom H To: Gentoo User Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 8e5afd33-ba82-4d56-a269-4349b2000e07 X-Archives-Hash: 29ac01d0d562433f5b49d20a1ef93958 On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 6:36 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > CentOS 7.0, however, was a mess. > > It took three attempts and almost an entire day of work. > > My first attempt was to use the "minimal" ISO image so that I would > have the option of burning a CD if needed (I can't burn DVDs at the > moment). That was a mistake. It was too minimal, and I couldn't get > the network working to the point where I could configure repositories > and install other stuff. Since the CentOS 7 ISO images all boot from > USB flash drive anyway, staying under the 700MB CD size limit was moot > anyway. > > Next I tried the net install ISO. I'm guessing I could have burned > the DVD image to USB drive, but all I want is a minimal desktop > system, so I figured why wait for a download of 3.5GB of stuff I don't > care about. > > It still didn't recognize the NVidia Ethernet controller on my > 5-year-old motherboard. After some cable swapping and futzing around, > I got the netinstall going using the Realtek NIC. > > Maybe I just got unlucky and picked a slow mirror site, but once I got > the install going, it ran for over 3 hours when installing a vanilla > Gnome desktop system. Compare that with a 15 minute download time for > a 700MB Xubuntu CD and then a 15 minute install. AFAIK, the netinstall isn't really meant to be used over the net but with a local mirror. > CentOS 7 refused to install the bootloader in a partition: your only > choices are MBR or nothing. When I manually installed grub legacy it > failed because I had stupidly allowed CentOS to use ext4, and the > build of Grub I had laying around didn't grok ext4. > > So I re-do the whole net install again using ext3 instead. > > Now, after manually installing Grub legacy in the CentOS 7 partition, > it boots up. The Anaconda developers have the same design philosophy as the Gnome developers: fewer options, fewer options, fewer options, fewer options, ... In this particular case, they're just following the grub developers' dislike of block lists; and the ext4 maintainer's described them as emotionally insecure because of that. > CentOS still doesn't recognize the NVidia motherboard Ethernet > controller. After Google finds me a pages full of links to other > people complaining about the exact same thing, I find out RedHat > decided that the NVidia forcedeth driver wasn't widely used enough to > deserve inclusion on an ISO image that was already 360+ MB. Thanks > for that, RedHat. So it takes another 45 minutes of faffing around > finding a third party src.rpm file for the forcedeth module and > installing it. [It was either that or build a kernel and initrd.] For future reference, elrepo.org is the best repo for RHEL issues like this one. For RH, dropping forcedeth means cutting its support costs.