From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F9AC139085 for ; Sat, 24 Dec 2016 15:51:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 291DCE0CE5; Sat, 24 Dec 2016 15:50:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wj0-x244.google.com (mail-wj0-x244.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c01::244]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 965CBE0C79 for ; Sat, 24 Dec 2016 15:50:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wj0-x244.google.com with SMTP id hb5so10803701wjc.2 for ; Sat, 24 Dec 2016 07:50:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Dxnt9qGcA3rO3vZa5HdiFb72Nwl/8UR6k84prrDJybA=; b=GywUVu0h/xYGr5zqOnQur4+bUq4u0iDoU5Lv+cCOdtaV3twDXrinUHSlba5uHZ9/gW BH3iflgmrLYDbWB4PXk64OCy359ReHazE9mjDOLazcesjvP5ugs6mVSvmuxEIjCMN/w3 ZiI0fc8InDSWVPbwF4Q9IR2mlGdP5LrKBuM+mZqBXlJgDS6CFyWxrxY6bhipv6bV38Jz RAxFDaWEYYO4BrmlIWHwYfL3cbocHtUtiEJgPVtW5vfLJ5NAmJKm2naqI6GSUDrdoPYH YOQn625CNagkSB21tm1ixnU1Pul4NTiUInUH3rA3epjmfQssfFWBdyzGqpvwskb/OWpu Y9VQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=Dxnt9qGcA3rO3vZa5HdiFb72Nwl/8UR6k84prrDJybA=; b=JUgI45M9tVCrQok9J5AeEd9kULofW3EUt7bnb0LqLiuhG4xYvOSrpFl8HBztlZdKls J5osAOCK8oT1Wvf31x05M8ZvhrL77v3bWZhIztDSQL/tPnFknBDgoflN4m44Uf/uVIOV 4Z1KI/ADQTwQgRMHs4k5oPCvy0IPz+Exa357qOWShVn6U1oV/7LowZNtyXyBgjemJgh4 aEq9ZeORswH5uz8ZWe9vXWwleh2wTQuN/pLlj8RJ2v/hmAe+gQ+UnjQXJeepp7JLdqtj 1RdVvkVleEK251bS3W5ig6nmZdtfe1wFnz8Op4w0Nb4B7vLWDxPlr59RbR+VRC8WFge+ RcSw== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXKD2LAnbAwWL7mH6Gnl6HBpUhHeE4i9ApYtWmFZz7fgu9grMTDLshxNTQsws+jmadmNCr1AZ6Cxi9NlpQ== X-Received: by 10.194.126.38 with SMTP id mv6mr17173402wjb.142.1482594654370; Sat, 24 Dec 2016 07:50:54 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.14.73 with HTTP; Sat, 24 Dec 2016 07:50:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20161223083903.56133a87@digimed.co.uk> References: <20161015182743.GB4541@solfire> <87shpjxod9.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> <2748e68f-59c1-e7f3-eec4-858773acbdb9@andrejro.de> <3bf0f4ef-79d1-401b-cdd3-948c13f12f2a@baums-on-web.de> <20161220215558.6d650233@digimed.co.uk> <87y3zauu83.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> <20161221002744.17f5107e@digimed.co.uk> <871sx1t0lu.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> <20161221234653.24de1d1c@digimed.co.uk> <87inqcr6vt.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> <20161222085646.414fa0e4@digimed.co.uk> <20161222101410.745ce589@digimed.co.uk> <20161222123801.5bbc0021@digimed.co.uk> <20161223083903.56133a87@digimed.co.uk> From: Tom H Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2016 10:50:53 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No To: Gentoo User Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: e96698f8-61e2-4ef8-b1fd-0e2abae38100 X-Archives-Hash: 0f5cc345f33236d257f964f7687fae1c On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 3:39 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 02:26:05 -0500, Tom H wrote: >>> >>> I don't use grub on UEFI systems, but I use the systemd bootloader, >>> so I thought I'd keep quiet about that ;-) >> >> I'm also a heretic who uses the systemd bootloader no matter what pid1 >> is in charge. >> >> It's the best thing that the systemd developers have produced! > > Except they didn't produce it. They assimilated gummiboot, which I was > already using, into the systemd collective! Wasn't Kay Sievers one of the two gummiboot developers? (Along with Harald of dracut fame.)