From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4CCA1381F3 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 20:59:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6620DE0B4A; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 20:58:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ee0-f53.google.com (mail-ee0-f53.google.com [74.125.83.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 34DF3E0B32 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 20:58:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ee0-f53.google.com with SMTP id b15so1875057eek.40 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 13:58:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=gVvXADXf67L5OFr27kheADrDfQOdtSFGjoxx+qDuL54=; b=Vh/jpF8ncAoSlrtcnuE+qIq5+Z7FfFQgwehKl45HERhILPtqgstMNYkoj33WQ2S5hF m9fUwAozRQJ4Ler/e5LdZTGfu0d1O0QQkpnwCsaiRHYaBuXOKYcBVDur/vhMcdTCbDFx C2NENNtyFujwG88Wx0N7337W/x9hK/suIwvfn63oVNj6XuRHUGZ8cmmEG4iVdAS3M/tD pIZ27otR7rzzybotDEJPjkUekyv5H354sFFzid3wfb/TYF5zDjE0lXb+3i+j6hQsihcr +/oOQ9zGXpKY5sYWMlt+ACoXIcHfFNI1PAQX15zSMRUBsy1ZywI07nyQIBlnc8p+4sA/ kpWQ== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.15.42.70 with SMTP id t46mr141277eev.58.1380401932781; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 13:58:52 -0700 (PDT) Sender: alon.barlev@gmail.com Received: by 10.223.205.74 with HTTP; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 13:58:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20130927222109.GD23408@server> <5246079E.7090406@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 23:58:52 +0300 X-Google-Sender-Auth: EIzf84rfoGXVyqyvWp7r8SuqqPA Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01 From: Alon Bar-Lev To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 80aeadae-dd4c-49b7-9fce-97f24fc9d66f X-Archives-Hash: e7f76dd9642d871f805c3edcf845c67a On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 11:43 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 28/09/13 01:33, Dale wrote: >> >> Bruce Hill wrote: >>> >>> mingdao@workstation ~ $ eselect news read >>> 2013-09-27-initramfs-required >>> Title Separate /usr on Linux requires initramfs >>> Author William Hubbs >>> Posted 2013-09-27 >>> Revision 1 >>> >>> Linux systems which have / and /usr on separate file systems but do not >>> use an initramfs will not be supported starting on 01-Nov-2013. >>> [...] >> >> >> >> I'm hoping that since I use eudev, I don't have to worry about this. If >> I do, this could get interesting, again. > > > You do need to worry about this. Actually, you always had to worry about > this. It's just that your specific configuration didn't blow up in a > visible way. You might had problems already in the past, just not apparent > ones. If you read the links posted in the announcement, you will see that > the problem wasn't eudev or udev. It's all the other software on your > system. > > eudev *cannot* fix that. > As far as I read, the problem is with bluetooth keyboards? and some other devices and locales, which are minor for this decision of removing supportability. Especially for servers and for most of workstations. Most sane configuration can be supported with separate /. And of course there is the hidden systemd agenda, which is what I suspect had more impact. Regards, Alon Bar-Lev.