From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89FB81381F3 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 11:26:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6DF19E0BEC; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 11:25:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vb0-f50.google.com (mail-vb0-f50.google.com [209.85.212.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 665A8E0B24 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 11:25:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vb0-f50.google.com with SMTP id x14so1950897vbb.9 for ; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 04:25:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=5CZGpdVOLt41PVA6XNnPlKDPPzxi4fDLzhcNf4MXQJ8=; b=Z5r6VuhOUZHPHLqDQNkiYlhvSdoVZdCsV7+fCpjJw2m+dqptyXZk5G8yaZu2MXC1Qj ttgfM7qja566QpykfH5mzcc7q81oA4LiMYYuzl+Lr5z6IUxZgTwcAgESJlgKOpHjW+n1 OVzbbrQgRewJGEz9SkhNNmBRU+luMSnQGwtg8LO4obvrbrFs4sLFXoL6hWYWIqJEo6ZV neLB7QW9IcYAfG9mpG6FVgO1ofhNtqhimP/XH8NqqeoRC/7v+drM5KIkiyb6ImJnWz22 S4IUiu0++ltJFZVvbjJp67GOlxmxyv2a2PqO9UgxvrcgwWTYstyR+YcHNXBOquf6PTKb 3nfA== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.173.134 with SMTP id p6mr317727vcz.36.1375356349546; Thu, 01 Aug 2013 04:25:49 -0700 (PDT) Sender: alon.barlev@gmail.com Received: by 10.58.255.193 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 04:25:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20130801111736.GA7924@nicolas-desktop.logifi.fr> References: <51F80310.9070006@gentoo.org> <51F850C3.6060301@orlitzky.com> <20130801111736.GA7924@nicolas-desktop.logifi.fr> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 14:25:49 +0300 X-Google-Sender-Auth: vyQpeUqOLq2OgpUUUIpATwHMYSk Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo is so AWESOME From: Alon Bar-Lev To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Cc: Nicolas Sebrecht Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: d6bae0d6-dce4-43d8-a83d-02a4168b1e33 X-Archives-Hash: 0b7752723caa11e5183d13c0cf1a45e5 On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: > The 01/08/13, Hans de Graaff wrote: > >> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=1&chap=2 >> documents this from the new developer perspective. Note how it says to >> contact the recruiters if you don't already have found a mentor yourself. >> >> There is also http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/recruiters/ which >> documents this from the inside, but when I wanted to become a developer I >> found that more useful documentation :-) >> >> So it is explicitly documented. Perhaps not well enough? In that case, >> let us know what you miss. > > I've proposed myself some years ago. Things might have changed since > then but at that time the mail I sent to the dev list got no response. > > Process recruitement is incredibely busy and over-complicated compared > to all other projects I've been involved into. I think this stands like > that because most developers are afraid to give wirte acces to the whole > portage CVS tree to others. > > In all other projects, it's almost a question of subscribing to a > mailing list and send git patches. I don't see the major difference between that and opening a bug and attaching the patch. Only that bugzilla allow to manage the process, not have leftovers, and future people can resume past discussions. > With time, you get direct write > access. In time you can be become either proxy maintainer or gentoo developer (direct access to source repository). > With Gentoo, you have to find a mentor, officially call for > being a member, success the online tests, keep mentored some time. Not > very light and efficient... Can you please suggest a different method to ensure quality? > Now, I'm away from Gentoo and it's fine. :-) > > -- > Nicolas Sebrecht >