From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B21D01381F3 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 12:38:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2FE63E0D61; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 12:38:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vb0-f50.google.com (mail-vb0-f50.google.com [209.85.212.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2963BE0D39 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 12:38:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vb0-f50.google.com with SMTP id x14so5671502vbb.37 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 05:38:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=pmc/MNQCLyn1N2pWpq6mWt93dpOZ2LXJmgM+c+kmDIo=; b=qiwqq2p25fjTRU3q/1JzQYztFgywMYsTfMVRUXD7iyiZTh7GHFD+qVVpobSupBDxpd vXvvzx4Qgn4VmEq7vyEINbL5j0rMpJAtNY3LSDhn971upow0sGksp2X2/S+b65ZQd4UH poOXgmh2ix4FrU9zlz/tYiH3G/lq3+DvUEQjjpmDrsgS+hR/BD5YM4jtwxM4Zwvb7ayU xdBf41zVeayOaDFEW/Y0nPTqYMD2Z3pMcztPAqF87RAUu7kdsDXBYJP+2CTy3qMV9mxw 63Zd4RTxKl/Dxv8LFv5DwPZ/IWXIKEvlTcrtH17cLeaXjx2eIPE6pMEOMuZX0nwsmB+Z kufA== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.173.134 with SMTP id p6mr6337380vcz.36.1376311122298; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 05:38:42 -0700 (PDT) Sender: alon.barlev@gmail.com Received: by 10.58.255.193 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 05:38:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5208D632.8070808@gentoo.org> References: <51FA8CB6.60000@libertytrek.org> <51FAEEC6.9000006@iinet.net.au> <51FAF26C.2040107@gentoo.org> <20130802010100.GA31096@waltdnes.org> <51FB133F.3040409@gentoo.org> <51FB1DF5.8050802@gmail.com> <51FB2102.50102@gentoo.org> <5208C8E4.70905@gentoo.org> <5208CFDD.2080200@gentoo.org> <5208D24C.1060805@libertytrek.org> <5208D632.8070808@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 15:38:42 +0300 X-Google-Sender-Auth: PTnO3VjYn4yHtOPTw3bOPFsw1LI Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev From: Alon Bar-Lev To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: ad7125b3-e0a3-4186-9d4f-5c22da9d69dc X-Archives-Hash: 06f92dcb834d8ade51dd8faba335a15f On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > On 12/08/13 15:17, Tanstaafl wrote: >> >> On 2013-08-12 8:06 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: >>> >>> True, it won't be dropped for long as people are maintaining it. That's >>> how maintainership works. >>> But trying to lie to people it's somehow solving something currently is >>> annoying as 'ell and should be corrected where seen. >> >> >> It is solving the problem of *when* (not if - if the words I have read >> from the systemd maintainers can be taken at face value) the systemd >> maintainers decide to pull the plug on the ability to have a >> systemd-less udev... >> > > Then we will carry a minimal patchset on top of sys-fs/udev that will keep > it working without systemd for long as it's sustainable. > And at this point it's pointless to talk of forking yet, it should be done > only when it's required. It is done ahead so it won't be too late, as you say... eudev is "minimal patch set" over systemd. Someone should have forked the logind as well ahead, so the whole gmone discussion was irrelevant.