From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QdlqU-0002tg-V8 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 16:18:05 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 74D9221C093; Mon, 4 Jul 2011 16:16:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vw0-f53.google.com (mail-vw0-f53.google.com [209.85.212.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46DD221C093 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2011 16:15:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws13 with SMTP id 13so4777215vws.40 for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 09:15:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xA4KaG7T7Ll7WiMx8mOIDj2LVLyhTp1M1zkyo/eKSiM=; b=INhHrgwir3Setzb6YqfVRxE8iCTyQzvmW9cUx9hWuU5O9MJ4nZ2ltG0l45lKsFpW+M bZ5pcnXRVXXehBnQeagAPXiZDZExvVC8uygKPw9On0vfz1OsQ52K47c42KDM9mnC84bP q1JkEUV/VhycQQiULGk1cuOs19BFKvMUH8ul4= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.114.165 with SMTP id jh5mr5148510vdb.126.1309796155534; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 09:15:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.188.76 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Jul 2011 09:15:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201107041701.12405.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> References: <20110703103114.GA2739@acm.acm> <20110704141504.0dd2f1de@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> <201107041701.12405.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 12:15:55 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]: Powering off Windows XP, crashing NTFS with a Live CD. From: Joshua Murphy To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: e3ecb74d87afcabd63485b2292e58bc4 On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Mick wrote: > On Monday 04 Jul 2011 15:48:06 Joshua Murphy wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote= : >> > On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 12:12:03 +0000, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >> >> > > o - Do live CDs actually mount filesystems on HDDs? >> >> > >> >> > Only when you ask them to. >> >> >> >> I'm stupid. =C2=A0Of _course_ a live CD can't mount HDD filesystems a= t boot. >> >> To do this it would need /etc/fstab, for which it would need to be to= ld >> >> the root partition. =C2=A0A live CD doesn't get this. >> > >> > A live CD can mount partitions automatically at boot, some do. all it >> > needs to do is scan the disk partition tables, create the mount points >> > and mount them. >> > >> > Knoppix has been doing the first two for years, and writing the detail= s >> > to /etc/fstab to allow the user to mount them easily. >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Neil Bothwick >> > >> > A computer without Microsoft is like a chocolate cake without mustard. >> >> And to further complicate it, many also use a similar technique for >> finding themselves, mounting one filesystem after another until they >> find some distinct marker file to identify where to find the rest of >> their data. Others auto-mount and poke around for auto-loading of >> extensions unless such features are disabled by a boot-time option. > > I've only come across LiveCDs which scan the drive and create mount point= s - > but not mount any device unless explicitly asked to do so by the user. > > However, I wouldn't be surprised if some more recent installation CDs go > further than that, as Joshua claims. > > Joshua, which LiveCDs behave in the way you describe by automounting > partitions and searching fs? > > -- > Regards, > Mick > I haven't seen any install cds that do that, but DSL and, if I recall, TinyCore/MicroCore look for extensions in a default path on the local filesystems. One thing I'm fairly sure on, though, is that without the "-f" flag, mount won't take the risk on an unclean NTFS, and instead just tosses an "are you sure?" message, which would make me presume even those livecds that do look for extensions wouldn't risk the damage there. --=20 Poison [BLX] Joshua M. Murphy