From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC26513827E for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2013 00:16:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9D85BE09A5; Fri, 13 Dec 2013 00:16:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qc0-f170.google.com (mail-qc0-f170.google.com [209.85.216.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 87384E095A for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2013 00:16:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qc0-f170.google.com with SMTP id x13so975366qcv.1 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2013 16:16:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=3xly25Cb6SgPDBhO3vxKaGKPj/iMlicQTpbhA+dAvqo=; b=BdNlMENlW0fV+mufvYuKwBpVrdXcLumLEi+m8VPCP9BG5J9IrN6yYz6rh7tWofXoxx mjrYt6aZnLU+JJqGbmbLkcMR7KROMit/q0TPCdbo4j10doW2ZEZ8cryKXMBo+rjgN6FC qbNwcFTcfQUJTy9JIrU75LIDMGQZBRPvIYRQQiIcx0j1oeVFckiI/UY+ERKN82LBBvmM WJbjvxTYgOBr7gRtpFRaTO4KdPBBy4elZ75yW598IPiNtg2QcsMkCqsOlHphHUf7eDwz ldQJ45mMPoJJlrefMrQvXF39SRtCg9EXXQ0A/kzSSTN/XgtBVBWw0Pl+LzVcFUT8u461 CfUA== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.49.82.130 with SMTP id i2mr18684379qey.68.1386893803837; Thu, 12 Dec 2013 16:16:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.224.36.20 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Dec 2013 16:16:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <524358B0.1060000@gmail.com> <52449C1A.5000306@gmail.com> <5245E03A.2020605@gmail.com> <52489438.3090405@gmail.com> <5249D186.8050808@gmail.com> <524A699E.6080006@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 19:16:43 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Managing multiple systems with identical hardware From: "Poison BL." To: gentoo-user Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: c4411bca-a305-4099-be0f-94b7ce40b1be X-Archives-Hash: 65d2135518e0faf8b272df74477fa146 On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 6:54 PM, Grant wrote: > I'm about to embark on this (perilous?) journey and I'm wondering if > anyone would make a comment on any of the questions in the last > paragraph below. This is basically my plan for setting up a bunch of > systems (laptops) in an office which are hardware-identical to my own > laptop and creating a framework to manage them all with a bare minimum > of time and effort. > > Thanks, > Grant > > >>>>>>> I see what you desire now - essentially you want to clone your laptop >>>>>>> (or big chunks of it) over to your other workstations. >> >> I've been working on this and I think I have a good and simple plan. >> >> My laptop roams around with me and is the "master" system. The office >> router is the "submaster" system. All of the other office systems are >> "minion" systems. All of the systems are 100% hardware-identical >> laptops. All of the minions are 100% software-identical. >> >> I install every package that any system needs on the master and create >> an SSH keypair. The only config files that change from their state on >> the master are: /etc/conf.d/hostname, /etc/conf.d/net, >> /etc/ssh/sshd_config, /etc/shorewall/*. I write comments in those >> files which serve as flags for scripted changes. >> >> I write a script that is run from the master to the submaster, or from >> the submaster to a minion. If it's the former, rsync / is run with >> exceptions (/usr/portage, /usr/local/portage, /var/log, /tmp, /home, >> /root but /root/.ssh/id_rsa_script* is included), my personal user is >> removed, a series of workstation users are created with useradd -m, >> services are added or removed from /etc/runlevels/default, and config >> files are changed according to comment flags. If it's the latter, >> rsync / is run without exceptions, services are added or removed from >> /etc/runlevels/default, and config files are changed according to >> comment flags. >> >> All user info on the submaster and minions would be effectively reset >> whenever the script is run and that's fine. Root logins would have to >> be allowed on the submaster and minions but only with the SSH key. >> There are probably more paths to exclude when rsyncing master to >> submaster. >> >> That's it. No matter how numerous the minions become, this should >> allow me to keep everything running by administrating only my own >> system, pushing that to the submaster, and having the submaster push >> to the minions. I've been going over the nitty-gritty and everything >> looks good. >> >> What do you think? Is there anything inherently wrong with rsyncing / >> onto a running system? If there are little or no changes to make, >> about how much data would actually be transferred? Is there a better >> tool for this than rsync? I know Funtoo uses git for syncing with >> their portage tree. >> >> - Grant > Only thing that comes immediately to mind in rsyncing an overwrite of / is that any process that's running that goes looking for libraries or other data after the rsync pulls the rug out from beneath it might behave erratically, crash, kick a puppy, write arbitrary data all over your drive. Also, it's somewhat important to be careful about the various not-really-there mounts, /dev, /sys, /proc... /run's probably touchy too, and /var has a few pieces that might be in use mid-sync and choke something along the way. My idea on that would be... build an initramfs that: 1) boots to a script a) warns the user that it's hungry and that feeding it will be dangerous to any non-backed-up data, with prompt b) warns the user again, with prompt ('cause watching an rsync roll by that eats that document you just spent 3 weeks on isn't fun) 2) mounts / in a working directory 3) rsyncs the new data from the sub-master 4) kicks off a script to update a hardware keyed (mac address is good for this) set of settings (hostname, etc) 5) reboots into the new system. For extra credit... sync /home back to the sub-master to prevent overfeeding the beast. -- Poison [BLX] Joshua M. Murphy