From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1S1NHE-0002p8-7Y for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 19:27:28 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0E9D5E0D82; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 19:27:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ey0-f181.google.com (mail-ey0-f181.google.com [209.85.215.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0693E0C99 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 19:25:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eaak14 with SMTP id k14so1487876eaa.40 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 11:25:04 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of emailgrant@gmail.com designates 10.14.28.4 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.14.28.4; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of emailgrant@gmail.com designates 10.14.28.4 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=emailgrant@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=emailgrant@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.14.28.4]) by 10.14.28.4 with SMTP id f4mr4334862eea.52.1330197904050 (num_hops = 1); Sat, 25 Feb 2012 11:25:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=o10snrwimEoZrSTK+XlAaLmA79u99fWRtjNkc/gW5ZY=; b=X9Wu2VcpWR4/R853CCnuX/BQ6s3EbDNmCUsdszcxR3sZPwhJyjOZfivZtxZb6BGC/V mr0UNzwv9XwpvX1wonnqwkRDWdrs3lmHnEYpaMiWr4R7SZl9SPypnwH9dMFbv1WxRaUb i5tdtQtePHkCXSWLRvOWZtZiBD0T+DaGWbMRA= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.28.4 with SMTP id f4mr3225119eea.52.1330197903888; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 11:25:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.113.148 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 11:25:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20120225200305.2e9ae382@gmail.com> References: <20120225095751.7ad3d9d6@gmail.com> <20120225200305.2e9ae382@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 11:25:03 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Safe way to test a new kernel? From: Grant To: Gentoo mailing list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: cde26474-7790-4575-93a6-fd0f197f7763 X-Archives-Hash: 31ddd9be2d2e712408f61081cd565cfd >> >> >> I need to test a kernel config change on a remote system. =A0Is >> >> >> there a safe way to do this? =A0The fallback thing in grub has >> >> >> never worked for me. =A0When does that ever work? >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > You can press ESC in the Grub screen and it will take you to >> >> > text-only mode. There, you select an entry, press "e" and edit >> >> > it. Press ENTER when you're finished, and then press "b" to boot >> >> > your modified entry. >> >> > >> >> > That way, you can boot whatever kernel you want if the current >> >> > one doesn't work. >> >> >> >> I can't do that remotely though. =A0I'm probably asking for something >> >> that doesn't exist. >> >> >> >> - Grant >> >> >> > >> > Don't do that if you don't have some tool like KVM, or other remote >> > management of the server. Or if it is available in the data center, >> > just call them and order this service for the time you need to do >> > updates. >> > >> > This is why I don't use gentoo on servers any more, just because >> > I rather stay safe than sorry. >> >> How is another distro different in this situation? >> >> - Grant > > Just because when using distros like Centos/RHEL or Debian stable, you > have very little chance that the kernel released will fail. Due to > extensive testing, user base and update policy. And major kernel update > you done only once in few years and the transition is tested before > release done (though you are supposed to test yourself to be safe). Yuck. :) > This is not saying that gentoo is bad, I'm very big fan of gentoo. > But you have to concern where it use and where not. > > Robert. Understood, thank you. - Grant