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From: Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} hire a programmer or company?
Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 23:44:45 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAN0CFw0U2jqHx6R9KwL3X7_dw0Y8ZRYz-sgDGGNm9DL=DR977w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120531005818.496cc0f1@khamul.example.com>

>> >> > You can get away with almost anything except these two things:
>> >> >
>> >> > Do not micro-manage
>> >> > Do not tell them how to do what they do
>> >>
>> >> Could you give me an example of this last one?
>> >
>> > - I see you are using Perl with hashrefs to do function xyz. Have
>> > you considered (i.e. I would like you to) using
>> > $INSERT_SOMETHING_HERE?
>>
>> So if I see a way that their coding could be improved (faster
>> execution, greater legibility, etc) I just keep quiet about it?
>>
>> > - Wanting to personally review the code often. I've seen some
>> > managers want to do this daily.
>>
>> How often should I read their code?  I was planning on reading it a
>> lot.
>
>
> Perhaps I was too literal. Those examples should be read in the context
> of obsessively fiddling with someone else's work. Alternatively, doing
> those examples and not producing anything worthwhile from doing it.
>
> Code reviews and suggestions are valuable, but there's a time and a
> place and a forum for them. All productive teams eventually reserve a
> time slot for review and demos of running code. You and the entire team
> can and should discuss optimizations then.
>
> Let me put it another way - you likely don't like it if someone else
> fiddles with your work while you are trying to do it, or gives
> "helpful suggestions" while you are trying to concentrate. All I'm
> saying is to avoid doing that to others. Good old common sense will
> tell you when this is happening - you already know how to do it, no
> need to analyze the thing any further than that

Got it, thanks Alan and thanks everyone for helping with this.

- Grant



  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-31  6:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-26 11:26 [gentoo-user] {OT} hire a programmer or company? Grant
2012-05-26 11:44 ` Florian Philipp
2012-05-27  6:22   ` Grant
2012-05-27  8:27     ` Alan McKinnon
2012-05-27  8:51     ` Florian Philipp
2012-05-27 16:09       ` Grant
2012-05-27 16:35         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-05-27 16:53           ` Grant
2012-05-27 21:18             ` Alan McKinnon
2012-05-28 15:30               ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-05-27 21:18         ` Alan McKinnon
2012-05-28 16:00           ` Grant
2012-05-28 20:50             ` Alan McKinnon
2012-05-29  8:34               ` Grant
2012-05-29 12:08                 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-05-29 17:51                   ` Grant
2012-05-29 20:10                     ` Alan McKinnon
2012-05-30  9:00                       ` Grant
2012-05-29 12:30                 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-05-29 13:58                 ` Michael Mol
2012-05-29 14:05                   ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-05-29 14:37                   ` Alan McKinnon
2012-05-29 23:52                     ` Peter Humphrey
2012-05-30  9:11               ` Grant
2012-05-30 12:57                 ` [gentoo-user] " Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-05-30 22:58                 ` [gentoo-user] " Alan McKinnon
2012-05-31  6:44                   ` Grant [this message]
2012-05-29 17:02 ` [gentoo-user] " James

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