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From: Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com>
To: Gentoo mailing list <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] PMTUD
Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 04:17:28 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAN0CFw0A+yT52EPmCx8UBF-fUNSSCyHptm--LR-PZeys6G1cBA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201309010937.48181.michaelkintzios@gmail.com>

> Communications between IPv4 end points use PMTUD by setting a Don't Fragment
> (DF) bit in the headers of the outgoing packet.  If a router/server along the
> path has a smaller MTU, it will drop that packet and respond with an ICMP
> 'Destination Unreachable -- Fragmentation Needed' packet including its smaller
> MTU value.  Upon receiving this smaller packet value the initiating host will
> dynamically reduce the size of the outgoing packets, until the packet arrives
> at its intended destination.  PMTUD should always be switched on in any well
> behaving network implementation, but here's the rub:  some network nodes,
> firewalls, servers are configured to never respond with *any* ICMP packets
> (because they think that this is a way to avoid DDoS problems and the like).
> Therefore, the initiating host keeps sending large packets never knowing that
> they are dropped on the way.  This network problem is known as a PMTUD black
> hole and is explained better here:

Could ICMP packets not getting through be to blame for my proxy server
problem?  My laptop can't seem to ping anyone (blocked at the firewall
in this hotel I suppose) and certainly the proxy server can't ping my
laptop.

- Grant


  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-09-01 11:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-27  8:10 [gentoo-user] PMTUD Grant
2013-08-27 14:27 ` Mick
2013-09-01  7:40   ` Grant
2013-09-01  8:37     ` Mick
2013-09-01 10:31       ` Grant
2013-09-01 12:00         ` Mick
2013-09-01 12:09           ` Grant
2013-09-01 11:17       ` Grant [this message]
2013-09-01 12:57         ` Mick
2013-09-01 13:59           ` Grant
2013-09-01 15:43             ` Mick
2013-09-01 16:17               ` Grant
2013-09-01 16:53                 ` Mick
2013-09-01 17:54                   ` Grant
2013-09-01 18:51                     ` Mick
2013-09-02 18:34                       ` Grant
2013-09-02 22:29                         ` Mick
2013-09-05 12:52                           ` Grant

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