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From: Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com>
To: Gentoo mailing list <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Will ARM take over the world?
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 13:44:09 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAN0CFw08eK9B27PF30UoQDVbngV_FDZVwbSTYLjtCU-oUTV=rA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121209100322.009e6fe9@khamul.example.com>

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> > It seems like ARM processors will destroy x86 before too long.  Does
> > anyone think this won't happen?
> >
> > - Grant
>
> Yes me.
>
> ARM will take over where it makes sense and won't where it doesn't.
>
> For desktops and laptops, x86 was used simply because there was nothing
> else, so x86 is going to have to fight for it's survival in the
> whole bottom and middle range there.
>
> x86 has already lost the fight in the portable market (phones, tablets)
> and truth be told never really got going there.
>
> For everything else, I don't see ARM making much inroads. There's a hug
> server market out there for things with computing grunt and the
> software that drives them - x86 isn't going away in that market anytime
> soon.
>
> But this is an old, old, old argument. People predicted the demise of
> mainframes for years when x86 started becoming a quite powerful cpu.
> The current truth is that IBM sell more mainframes year on year, growth
> is more than mere inflation can account for, and mainframes are just
> getting stronger. So x86 didn't kill the mainframe, instead x86 played
> a huge role in making both stronger. I see no reason to believe the
> same story won't play out exactly the same all over again between x86
> and ARM.

This is really interesting.  "all over again" is exactly what I expect to
happen, but I didn't realize it happened as you say. A friend of mine was
really into SPARC in the 90's and complained loudly when x86 grabbed its
market share.  At least that was how I understood it.  I imagine the same
thing happening with ARM and x86, but maybe I'm jumping to conclusions?

- Grant

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Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-09  3:25 [gentoo-user] {OT} Will ARM take over the world? Grant
2012-12-09  3:51 ` Michael Mol
2012-12-09 19:24   ` Florian Philipp
2012-12-09 19:53     ` Marc Joliet
2012-12-11  2:00   ` Walter Dnes
2012-12-13 13:45   ` Walter Dnes
2012-12-09  3:52 ` microcai
2012-12-09  8:03 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-09 21:44   ` Grant [this message]
2012-12-10  5:49     ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-09 23:23   ` Grant
2012-12-10  3:06     ` [gentoo-user] " James
2012-12-10  5:35     ` [gentoo-user] " Alan McKinnon
2012-12-10 15:46       ` [gentoo-user] " James
2012-12-10 18:18 ` [gentoo-user] " Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-10 19:06   ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2012-12-10 19:15     ` Michael Mol
2012-12-10 19:33       ` Grant Edwards
2012-12-10 19:38     ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-10 20:06       ` Grant Edwards
2012-12-10 20:20         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-10 20:37         ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-10 21:10           ` Grant
2012-12-10 21:23             ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-10 21:33               ` Grant
2012-12-10 21:42                 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-12 17:05                   ` James
2012-12-12 17:26                     ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-12 17:55                       ` James
2012-12-12 18:40                         ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-13  5:02                       ` Alan McKinnon
2012-12-13  6:06                         ` Pandu Poluan
2012-12-13 14:10                           ` Bruce Hill
2012-12-13  0:33                     ` Walter Dnes
2012-12-13  1:00                       ` Grant
2012-12-13 11:24                         ` Kevin Chadwick
2012-12-13 13:37                         ` Walter Dnes
2012-12-13 18:29                       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-12-14 17:13                         ` Walter Dnes

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